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Officials say scissors response excessive
Inquirer ^ | Dec. 14, 2004 | Susan Snyder

Posted on 12/14/2004 5:19:10 PM PST by Former Military Chick

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To: plain talk

"What's going is too much rules-based thinking based on a society being run by lawyers."

Yep. This is what the John Edwards' of the world have brought us.


21 posted on 12/14/2004 6:15:24 PM PST by SerpentDove (Welcome to Gloat Central. Pull up a chair.)
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To: PistolPaknMama
Most people in their right mind would realize this thing needs to come out before they go home.

To be fair, vets sometimes send pets home with a catheter still in their leg, if they're expected to be coming back soon and needing it again -- saves the trouble of finding a vein again. So it's not totally insane (though pretty close) for someone fairly dimwitted not to realize that when being discharged from the hospital with no instructions to return, that thing definitely needs to come out first. HOWEVER, it is totally insane to go to a lawyer for help, when you finally realize this can't be right. Had she already called the hospital, before she came to you? Perhaps whoever answered the phone at the hospital went off on some rant about "I can't believe those idiots left that in you, they should have known to check, yadda, yadda", thus giving Dummy the impression that she had been the victim of serious medical malpractice.

22 posted on 12/14/2004 6:19:41 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: PistolPaknMama

Well I agree with you on the root cause. But the society IS being run by lawyers and concerns about lawsuits etc which is why this school reacted the way it did. They follow some stupid rule and thus feel they are innoculated from damages. Its crazy.

I do know many conservative lawyers who are great people. But as a group, lawyers have greatly contributed to many of the problems we have and many of them are scum.


23 posted on 12/14/2004 6:23:30 PM PST by plain talk
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To: GovernmentShrinker

No, you would definitely have to be an imbicile, moron or idiot to ASSUME that the device has to stay in your arm, rather than simply ask someone directly.


24 posted on 12/14/2004 6:34:40 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: GovernmentShrinker
So did you pull the thing out of Dummy's arm and stick a band-aid on it? And then ask her, "Did you ever think of doing that"?

I thought of something along those lines. :-) Actually I called the hospital and they were shocked, of course, and said to send her right back over there, which we did. Didn't hear from Dummy again.

25 posted on 12/14/2004 6:51:42 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (And unto us a Child is born! Merry Christmas, dear FReepers!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Had she already called the hospital, before she came to you?

Nope, that was part of my initial intake with her as well. She had had no contact with the hospital since her release with "the thing" two days earlier. She wanted to sue and had the impression that the longer it was in there, the more she could recoup.

26 posted on 12/14/2004 7:08:28 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (And unto us a Child is born! Merry Christmas, dear FReepers!)
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To: plain talk
I agree with you 100%, but still it's because people have abdicated any personal responsibility for what happens to them. Everything is someone else's fault. If you haven't read "A Nation of Victims", *please* do. It's the victim mindset that is breeding the scum lawyer syndrome.

In my case with Dummy earlier, she tried to sleep for two night and every time she rolled over on the shunt, it hurt and woke her up. Waaaaaa! Let's sue somebody!

How to return to the days of our parents when character and personal responsibility meant pride in one's self and control of your own destiny, I have no idea.

In the case of this school, this was a CHILD. Children sometimes do things that are innocent, not realizing some grown up they're gonna run into in two hours has some agenda. In the case of this faculty, they took thier stand to say "we're just not gonna put up with anything, especially children being children. Bah humbug!" It came back to bite them, and I'm glad.

27 posted on 12/14/2004 7:23:39 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (And unto us a Child is born! Merry Christmas, dear FReepers!)
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To: PistolPaknMama
She had had no contact with the hospital since her release with "the thing" two days earlier.

If I was a lawyer for the hospital I'd use that as evidence that she deliberately left without having the catheter taken out, with the premeditated intention of suing.

28 posted on 12/14/2004 7:26:07 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Former Military Chick

" Last week a little girl was suspended for bringing what appeared to be jello shots. That school did not apologize and they never tested the jello. "

The jello was tested and it did have trace quantities of alcohol. It was impossible to say where it came from. Sheriff's office said it could have been from the jello spoiling after sitting around for a week before testing. ALso the girl's mother made jello shots with the same equipment at home for sale at the bar she worked at, so it could have been trace contamination.


29 posted on 12/14/2004 7:29:15 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Yep if you followed my line of questioning earlier, that was exactly my assessment. I ask the adversarial questions going in. Then you already have the answers the other side will want and can decide if you want to invest money in a lengthy contingency case, especially against a hospital whose pockets are deeper than a solo practicioner.


30 posted on 12/14/2004 7:34:44 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (And unto us a Child is born! Merry Christmas, dear FReepers!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Chick,

It is just the world of morons on parade.
Next they will haul you off for having paper...paper cuts, you know.

I really dunno how much more of this I can look at, before I go off to some deserted island.


31 posted on 12/14/2004 7:36:01 PM PST by AlexW
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This is a direct cause of letting liberals run our government for 50 or more years. We have a total breakdown of moral values and that is why our schools have so much violence. It has nothing to do with zero tolerance and or any other percentage. It has to do with children thinking that they can do what they want when they want. The liberals teachings of "Hey, there is no right and wrong, if you think it is right then it is right for you!" has caused all this. We need to take back our schools and instill values in children again. Take the Government out of schools.


32 posted on 12/14/2004 7:47:55 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

A 10 year old can do a lot of serious harm with 8" scissors concealed in her book bag! She claims she took it to school to open a new CD? What's going on here? What was she going to do with a purported new CD at school?
Sadly, too many people on this thread are so anti-school, anti-govt, anti-society that they are jumping on the "Poor Little Child Victims" bandwagon, raw meat for the ACLU, anti-religion lawyers and other lib radicals.


33 posted on 12/14/2004 8:02:03 PM PST by Original Kamaaina
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To: PistolPaknMama

Right. And it's the liberals that are breeding the victim mindset. They really have screwed up this country.


34 posted on 12/14/2004 8:09:10 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

Right on, we're on the same page. Please read "A Nation of Victims". It's worth the read. And I earn nothing from this advertising. :-)


35 posted on 12/14/2004 8:27:07 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (And unto us a Child is born! Merry Christmas, dear FReepers!)
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To: niobe527
Common sense must have died.

Thank the DIMS. They killed it.

36 posted on 12/14/2004 8:30:05 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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It sounds like the kids need to be carrying weapons to protect themselves against the violence already in the schools. Maybe the teachers could clip a can of MACE onto the hall pass?

It's pretty sad when you have to send your kids to private school (or homeschool) in order to give them a safe environment in which to learn and one that doesn't violate their Constitutional rights.

37 posted on 12/14/2004 8:57:37 PM PST by TNdandelion
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