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We need protection from the pedlars of religious hatred
Telegraph ^ | 12/14/04 | Iqbal Sacranie

Posted on 12/14/2004 8:30:01 AM PST by Pikamax

We need protection from the pedlars of religious hatred By Iqbal Sacranie (Filed: 14/12/2004)

In his column last Saturday, Charles Moore began with an almost unbelievably provocative question. "Was the prophet Mohammed a paedophile?" he asked.

The charge of paedophilia refers to Mohammed's marriage with Aisha. Yet a paedophile is one who is primarily aroused by children. For most of his married life, the Prophet (peace be upon him) had one wife, who was a widow with children of her own. After her death, he married others, most of whom were former widows themselves. Why would the Prophet have waited three years after his betrothal to Aisha – his only virgin bride – if not because he was waiting for her to attain puberty?

So the charge of paedophilia is nonsense; and, to be fair, the former editor of The Daily Telegraph acknowledged as much in his next paragraph. "People are perfectly entitled - rude and mistaken though they may be - to say that Mohammed was a paedophile," he wrote. Even so, the conjunction of the Prophet's name and this particular crime will have shocked Muslim readers.

As it happens, poetry in the Muslim world - and, in particular, that of the Urdu poet Allama Iqbal – abounds in complaints and reproaches made to God Almighty. Few poets, however, would dare to cast aspersions upon the name and memory of the blessed Prophet Mohammed. Witness the Persian couplet: Ba khuda deewana basho, Ba Muhammad hoshyar (Take liberty with God if you wish, but be careful with Mohammed).

European writers, though, have a history of taking liberties with the Prophet. As Minou Reeves, a former Iranian diplomat, observes in her book Mohammed in Europe: A Thousand Years of Western Myth-Making: "Over the course of no fewer than 13 centuries, a stubbornly biased and consistently negative outlook had persisted, permeating deep levels of European consciousness. In the works of an overwhelming majority of European writers, Mohammed was portrayed as a man of deep moral faults. Churchmen, historians, orientalists, biographers, philosophers, dramatists, poets and politicians alike had sought to attribute to Islam, and especially to Mohammed, fanatical and disreputable, even demonic characteristics."

It is no easy task to convey to a secular audience the immense love and esteem in which Muslims hold the Prophet. To us, he was the restorer of the worship of the One True God; teacher of an elegant and pristine monotheism; the friend of the orphans and the poor; a wise statesman, brave warrior, loving father, considerate husband; he was also the final of God's Prophets sent to mankind to remind us of the awesome Day of Judgment, when all will be called to account for the deeds we have committed during our lifetimes.

Anyway, back to Mr Moore. We seem to be revisiting the arguments that came to the fore during the Satanic Verses affair. Is freedom of expression without bounds? Muslims are not alone in saying "No" and calling for safeguards against vilification of dearly cherished beliefs. Earlier this year, the BBC accepted complaints from Catholics and withdrew its cartoon series Popetown. Why does society not show the same courtesy and sensitivity towards Muslims?

As you may have gathered, Mr Moore disapproves of the Government's proposal to outlaw incitement to religious hatred, seeing it as an "attempt to advance the legal privilege that Muslims claim for Islam". Quite what "privilege" Islam currently enjoys in Britain over and above other faiths, he does not say.

Yet the proposed legislation does not create a new offence as such. Such an offence already exists in relation to the Jewish and Sikh communities, by dint of their being regarded as mono-ethnic communities. It also exists in relation to all faith and belief communities in Northern Ireland. The Home Office proposal simply extends the current provisions to all faith communities in mainland Britain. If the present provisions in relation to Jews, Sikhs and Northern Ireland raise no concerns - and there is no real campaign to remove these provisions - why should they raise concerns if extended to other religions in Britain?

So, the incitement to religious hatred proposal is not a matter of advancing privileges for British Muslims. It's about establishing equality under the law.

The current loophole in our legislation has resulted in far Right groups such as the BNP modifying their racist rhetoric of yesteryear - no doubt out of fear of prosecution - into a more explicitly and aggressively anti-Muslim invective, this time without fear of breaking the law.

Stirring up hatred against people simply because of their religious beliefs or lack of them ought to be regarded as a social evil. The BNP's ongoing Islamophobia can and has led to criminal acts, abuse, discrimination, fear and disorder. At the moment, there are laws against those who are stirred into committing these offences, but not against those that do the stirring. In opposing the incitement to religious hatred provision, Charles Moore, Rowan Atkinson and the National Secular Society are unwittingly strengthening the hand of those, such as the BNP, who peddle religious hatred.

Quite a few red herrings have been floated this past week about free speech and the dangers of censorship. To be sure, proscribing legitimate free speech is not in the interest of any religion. The death of discussion, debate and robust criticism about a religion is the surest way of routing that religion itself. However, we can make a critical distinction between the substance and form of free speech. The law need not infringe on the substance but can assist to moderate the form, so that all people in this country, whatever their religion, may live in dignity, free from hatred and hostility.

As Martin Luther King observed: "The law might not change the hearts, but it can restrain the heartless." Modern Britain, like the rest of Europe, is now home to millions of Muslims. Some may have sought political refuge in our more democratic societies, some migrating for economic reasons.

Whatever their motives, they are now a part of the social fabric that constitutes these societies. Muslims in Britain do not seek to create an enclave or a parallel culture. They want to be respected as British. That is what they are. And the government that sees and treats them as such, by criminalising offences directed specifically at them, is a government that understands its obligations.

Iqbal Sacranie is secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cult; islam; mohammed; muslim; pedophile; religion; satanic; terrorist
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To: Pikamax
BTTT

Prophet of Doom - Islam’s Terrorist Dogma, In Muhammad’s Own Words


Islam is a caustic blend of regurgitated paganism and twisted Bible stories.
Muhammad, its lone prophet, conceived his religion solely to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money.
He was a terrorist.

And if you think these conclusions are shocking, wait until you see the evidence at www.prophetofdoom.net.

41 posted on 12/14/2004 3:33:34 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: jan in Colorado

Same here Jan...great post...keep on fighting!


42 posted on 12/14/2004 3:48:47 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: broadsword

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1183681/posts?page=40#40


43 posted on 12/14/2004 3:50:04 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: EdReform

TFTB


44 posted on 12/14/2004 4:03:39 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: jan in Colorado

Amen BTTT


45 posted on 12/14/2004 4:25:04 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: Pikamax
"For most of his married life, the Prophet (peace be upon him who's burning in hell) had one wife, who was a widow with children of her own. After her death, he married others, most of whom were former widows themselves.
46 posted on 12/14/2004 4:26:47 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: EdReform
Muhammad, Islam and Terrorism...

47 posted on 12/14/2004 4:32:24 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: jan in Colorado
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/33.htm

Homosexuality in Islam is punishable by death but pederasty is permissible.

Picture courtesy of www.homa.org

Quran 52:24 Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.

Also in Surah 76:19 Allah promises fresh youths to Muslim men.

And round about them shall go youths never altering in age; when you see them you will think them to be scattered pearls.

I apologize if the above picture is disturbing. It is indeed disturbing. But it would be more disturbing if no one spoke about it.

If Anyone recognizes this beast, please send me a note and let me know his name.

When Catholic priests molest children there is a law, there is a justice that holds them accountable. The Mullahs ARE the law, justice and the government. So they can do their shameful acts in public and who is going to stop them?

>>>

The sorry, sad, sick truth...


48 posted on 12/14/2004 5:09:14 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Apes...you are a brave man...but the truth must be told...God bless you...Jon


49 posted on 12/14/2004 5:11:06 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: weenie

Praise be to God.


50 posted on 12/14/2004 5:13:31 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: broadsword; Happy2BMe; dennisw; fire_eye; gubamyster; Howlin; sinkspur; nopardons

Bumpin FRiends...#48

(((PING)))


51 posted on 12/14/2004 5:15:05 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Bumping FRiends for Truth

(((PING)))


52 posted on 12/14/2004 5:17:14 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: ariamne; EdReform; USF; Pikamax; jan in Colorado; broadsword; ApesForEvolution

Ping of courage...Kudos to ApesForEvolution!


53 posted on 12/14/2004 5:17:53 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Amen, my brother.


54 posted on 12/14/2004 5:25:04 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Pikamax
For most of his married life, the Prophet (peace be upon him)

Show of hands: who, like me, stopped reading right there?

55 posted on 12/14/2004 5:25:57 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a greag deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Go to post #48...be prepared...it is vy sad...


56 posted on 12/14/2004 5:30:05 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: broadsword
[ So what? The bloodthirsty old degenerate was a late-bloomer pedophile. I $hit on the false prophet's memory and wipe my a$$ with the "holy" Koran. ]

LoL...

57 posted on 12/14/2004 5:30:11 PM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: broadsword

You won't be laughing when they come to your house and rape your camel.


58 posted on 12/14/2004 5:31:17 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Well.... it's funny what is being said about Mo' waiting three years for Aisha to reach puberty. They married her when she was SIX and they "consumed" their marriage when she was NINE. Sorry, but a 50+ year old man that has sex with a 9 year-old girl is a FILTY pedophile.


59 posted on 12/14/2004 5:32:19 PM PST by Kurt_D
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To: Kurt_D
And based on all we know about Mohammed, he hired a PR man who said "do it now and say you waited til she was nine...who will ever know..."

And Mohammed, not being a stranger to lying said, "Okey Dokey!"

60 posted on 12/14/2004 5:35:23 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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