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1 posted on 12/14/2004 3:09:01 AM PST by NYer
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Yes, but what mechanism will be put in place to enforce it?

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2 posted on 12/14/2004 3:10:48 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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Bump!


3 posted on 12/14/2004 3:13:05 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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That is the BIG Question!! WHO? The USCCB has ignored many directives from the Vatican in the past. They will ignore this one also as I believe it will be self incriminating for many of them.

The WHO is the Laiety, the People of the Catholic Religion themselves. If Rome and especially those around the Pope are serious about enforcing the directives, then the Laiety will have somewhere to go. Otherwise the Church will remain in the state of destruction that is has become since Vatican II


4 posted on 12/14/2004 3:18:25 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: NYer
Oh! This should help a whole lot!

NOT!

8 posted on 12/14/2004 3:32:28 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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Cardinal Jorge Medina Estevez, who has since retired as the head of the Congregation, which said ordaining such men would be imprudent and "very risky."

imprudent and "very risky."? How about a direct violation to God's holy and sacred word, the Bible?

In Pauls letter to Timothy are the job qualifications to be a minister of God, amongst them: "A man married to one wife."

There is not one verse in the entire bible althorizing the ordanation of homosexuals or women.

What is wrong with religion these days that they claim to be Christians, yet refuse to honor and follow His word? And it is not just Roman Cahtolics, it is any number of Protestant denominations as well

15 posted on 12/14/2004 4:08:45 AM PST by newsgatherer
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To: NYer

Elton John, SJ.


16 posted on 12/14/2004 4:09:35 AM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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To: NYer

The American Church, in particular a few diocese turned their backs on the church doctrine on ordaned homosexuals, and now those diocese are full of homosexuals so much so that they now control those diocese. Trading sex for favors and actively recruiting more homosexuals into them.

To this day, I still doubt highly that most lay folk of the church understand how rampant homosexuality has become in certain dioceses of the Catholic Church in america.

It needs to be stopped, and the only way it will be is if the Vatican itself kills it by purging the church of it.


29 posted on 12/14/2004 5:24:20 AM PST by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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Vatican Firms Up Plans For US Seminary Visitation in 2005
30 posted on 12/14/2004 5:24:27 AM PST by marshmallow
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men with homosexual sexual orientations should not be ordained

Shouldn't be made bishop either.

33 posted on 12/14/2004 5:32:07 AM PST by Slyfox
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Long time coming. I think a housecleaning is mandated by the realization that these and other problems poses a real cost, if not spiritually, monetary.
45 posted on 12/14/2004 5:52:12 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: NYer

News from the Vatican on Homosexuality, " Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah Blah, etc., etc., etc.

In the works for 5 Years, WOW Lightening Speed.


47 posted on 12/14/2004 6:04:46 AM PST by chatham
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Oh goody...I can't wait!

I'm sure this here document will be just chock full of truth!

50 posted on 12/14/2004 6:07:45 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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Your Holiness, I have a suggestion for your document. Two words:

NO POOFTERS!!!!

53 posted on 12/14/2004 6:18:26 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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