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DEAR PRESIDENT BUSH, PLEASE DO NOT APPOINT SEN LIEBERMAN AS HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY
12/12/04 | OPINION

Posted on 12/12/2004 6:20:24 AM PST by Liz

Can Joe (I'll-say-anything-to-win) LIEberman be trusted?

Silly question.

LIEberman won his Senate seat by outright lying about his abortion position.

Getting elected on the backs of the innocent unborn is not something that would inspire confidence in a position requiring utmost integrity.

If Joey would go to the lengths he did to get the pro-life vote - lying smackdab in the face of pro-lifers, telling them what he knew they wanted to hear - he is surely capable of promising just about anything he thinks people want to hear.

Abortion separates the men from the boys. As a radical pro-abortion advocate who voted six times for partial birth abortions, Joey proved himself to be a pimple-faced adolescent who fools the folks into thinking he's at the library when he's out smoking weed with the rest of the nerds.

Appoint him to HomeLand Secretary?

I wouldn't trust him to walk my dog.

In Sept 2000, The Washington Times reported how Lieberman, a staunch pro-abortion candidate made a pro-life pledge to religious leaders.

EXCERPT: Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman is a staunch supporter of abortion rights now, and even voted (six times) against a ban on partial-birth abortion, but Catholic leaders in Connecticut remember another Joe Lieberman.

He called on the state's archbishop with a pro-life pledge 12 years ago, when he was first a candidate for the U.S. Senate.......(and) met with Archbishop John F. Whealon of Hartford to seek Catholic votes in the final stretch of his 1988 Democratic bid to oust 18-year Sen. Lowell P. Weicker Jr., a Republican who supported abortion rights.....

"Joe was very liberal, like Weicker, but we had a poll on abortion that showed which way the wind was blowing," says Daniel Cosgrove, then the Democratic town chairman in Branford, Mr. Lieberman's hometown.

The poll showed anti-abortion sentiment outweighed pro-choice views in urban areas throughout Connecticut. "In the Waterbury area, it was more than any, 12,000 [more] against," Mr. Cosgrove says.

"He expressed himself against abortion, all suicide, and euthanasia. His position on that definitely was well received by the archbishop and priests" religious leaders said.

In fact, Mr. Lieberman's pro-life assurances were so convincing that Archbishop Whealon arranged for the Democratic candidate to meet with Catholic priests throughout the state shortly before the November 1988 balloting. Mr. Lieberman's expressed pro-life views in those meetings, Father Berry said. "That probably was not insignificant" in the November 1988 election outcome, he said.


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To: Fatalis
LOL! In what way have I not been conservative? Do you think anyone from DU would have anything good to say about John Kyl, or anything negative to say about the Democrat governor of Arizona?

Don't you get it? Agree with the Church Lady, or be gone!

121 posted on 12/12/2004 8:34:02 AM PST by veronica (Ding dong Arafat is dead...)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
It would be fun to watch the left's anti-Semitism come out in full force if Lieberman were selected. My how the leftists would sputter: "But, but, but, he is a J... Je... Jew... no uh, Zi... Zio... Zion... no uh, pro-Israel -- that's it! He's too pro-Israel!"

Not just the left. The paleo-right, too. ;)

122 posted on 12/12/2004 8:36:15 AM PST by veronica (Ding dong Arafat is dead...)
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To: Fatalis

Apples and oranges........mechanics, policemen and firemen are not making laws.

Obviously, it would be an issue is they ran for office.


123 posted on 12/12/2004 8:47:00 AM PST by Liz (FReepers keep Christmas in their hearts all year long.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
Lieberman's liberal policies are no worse than that of certain (non-Jewish) RINOs that almost everyone here praises. At least he understands (unlike many or most Dem politicians) that the world is a dangerous place.

Lieberman's problem is that his grasp of security issues is strong in the foreign sphere, but weak domestically.

124 posted on 12/12/2004 8:48:33 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: Liz
Apples and oranges........mechanics, policemen and firemen are not making laws.

Neither is a DHS Secretary. Apples back to you.

125 posted on 12/12/2004 8:49:34 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: Liz

we don't need a politician, we need a cop


126 posted on 12/12/2004 8:51:06 AM PST by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Liz

Catch me up here, is Liberliar, the scum that denied the military their vote in 2000, actually being considered for this post?


127 posted on 12/12/2004 8:56:59 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie

The "Uriah Heeps" are plotting and planning again (yawn).

Some of his butt-kissers are churning the PR machine for LIEb.


They're promoting the idea that plucking LIEb out of the Senate will get Repubs closer to a 60 vote veto-proof Senate.


128 posted on 12/12/2004 9:08:04 AM PST by Liz (FReepers keep Christmas in their hearts all year long.)
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To: Fatalis

YOU compared mechanics, policemen and firemen to a candidate. Oranges over and out.


129 posted on 12/12/2004 9:10:57 AM PST by Liz (FReepers keep Christmas in their hearts all year long.)
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To: veronica
I personally think Kerik was stiffed. He came up the hard way in life, so his record is not the lilly-white record of some, but he's tough, and just the right person for Homelamd Security. I wish Bush had stuck by him

Thank you for saying what you did. If W. names a milquetoast , Dem, or Lieeeeeebermannnnnn...I will be outraged!

You have found out your spouse, and children are about to be brutally murdered. YOU NEED PROTECTION by someone who KNOWS HOW TO PROTECT YOU.

Am I to believe that I would chose someone to be "politically correct" ??? or someone like Kerik who can do the job ?

I am sure at that point it wouldn't matter one iota if he hadn't payed taxes on an illegal alien !!!!!

IT IS TIME TO STOP THIS KUMBAYA KRAP ALONG WITH PC GARBAGE ! PROTECT THE NATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

130 posted on 12/12/2004 9:11:43 AM PST by Neenah
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To: JTanner
... but don't agree with the LIB idea of virtually no GOV -- I think we need taxes for roads, etc.

Lib's believe in no government? You sure 'bout that? :-)

131 posted on 12/12/2004 9:31:24 AM PST by AM2000 (I am not responsible for the contents of this post.)
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To: Liz
YOU compared mechanics, policemen and firemen to a candidate.

Not an elective candidate, and not someone who would be making laws, which was your original objection.

Like a policeman, a DHS Secretary would be enforcing and implementing laws, that's why I chose that example.

Since you obviously wouldn't object to a pro-abortion policeman enforcing the law to save your life in a circumstance that has nothing to do with abortion, why would you have a problem with a pro-abortion DHS Secretary doing the same thing?

132 posted on 12/12/2004 9:31:39 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: Liz
I met Joe when he was campaigning here in NH. He's quite conservative; also, he's very concerned and vigilant about our national security. He would make sure you're protected - even though he's being 'called names' here on the FR - he'd do his best for this country.
133 posted on 12/12/2004 9:36:20 AM PST by Born in a Rage
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To: Fatalis

The crucial issue is not why I oppose him, but why a conservative would support his as DHS. Period. End of discussion.


134 posted on 12/12/2004 9:40:09 AM PST by Liz (FReepers keep Christmas in their hearts all year long.)
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To: Liz
Reality Check #4762987635 -

When I was doing the phone banks during the Bush/Cheney 2004 campaign we asked if the respondents were pro-life, pro-choice, or somewhere in between. Most of them (who were voting for Bush) said either pro-life or somewhere in between.

135 posted on 12/12/2004 9:41:18 AM PST by Born in a Rage
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To: The Wizard

Right. Shoulda been required by the 9/11 team.


136 posted on 12/12/2004 9:42:49 AM PST by Liz (FReepers keep Christmas in their hearts all year long.)
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To: Born in a Rage; Just mythoughts

Conservatives are well aware of the scope and dimension of the pro-life vote. Repubs cannot win without pro-lifers. They know it and we know it.


Conservatives also know from attending Repub functions (and from some of the more intellectuallty facile comments on FR threads like these) that there is a small coterie of dividers and rumormongers out there----leeching off Republicans like latter day Uriah Heep's---- talking the Planned Parenthood talk, trying to dilute Republicans' pro-life position.

Ain't gonna happen.


137 posted on 12/12/2004 9:51:57 AM PST by Liz (FReepers keep Christmas in their hearts all year long.)
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To: Liz

Lieberman to the administration, and the GOP gov of Ct appoints his replacement. More than likely they'll want someone who can keep the seat so I see the liberal Chris Shays going to the Senate.


138 posted on 12/12/2004 9:59:40 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Liz
Lieberman is obviously not an ideal candidate, but I'd take a Mediocre cabinet secretary in exchange for a Republican Senator in Connecticut any day.

If Rove can pull this off, more power to him!

139 posted on 12/12/2004 10:02:57 AM PST by cicero's_son
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To: Liz

Knowing Bush, he will look for excecutive experience, probably a governor or maybe a big city police chief. Keating has something in his past that is considered a barrier to Senate confirmation. It's finincial, if I remember correctly.


140 posted on 12/12/2004 10:08:59 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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