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Posted on 12/12/2004 6:20:24 AM PST by Liz
Can Joe (I'll-say-anything-to-win) LIEberman be trusted?
Silly question.
LIEberman won his Senate seat by outright lying about his abortion position.
Getting elected on the backs of the innocent unborn is not something that would inspire confidence in a position requiring utmost integrity.
If Joey would go to the lengths he did to get the pro-life vote - lying smackdab in the face of pro-lifers, telling them what he knew they wanted to hear - he is surely capable of promising just about anything he thinks people want to hear.
Abortion separates the men from the boys. As a radical pro-abortion advocate who voted six times for partial birth abortions, Joey proved himself to be a pimple-faced adolescent who fools the folks into thinking he's at the library when he's out smoking weed with the rest of the nerds.
Appoint him to HomeLand Secretary?
I wouldn't trust him to walk my dog.
In Sept 2000, The Washington Times reported how Lieberman, a staunch pro-abortion candidate made a pro-life pledge to religious leaders.
EXCERPT: Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman is a staunch supporter of abortion rights now, and even voted (six times) against a ban on partial-birth abortion, but Catholic leaders in Connecticut remember another Joe Lieberman.
He called on the state's archbishop with a pro-life pledge 12 years ago, when he was first a candidate for the U.S. Senate.......(and) met with Archbishop John F. Whealon of Hartford to seek Catholic votes in the final stretch of his 1988 Democratic bid to oust 18-year Sen. Lowell P. Weicker Jr., a Republican who supported abortion rights.....
"Joe was very liberal, like Weicker, but we had a poll on abortion that showed which way the wind was blowing," says Daniel Cosgrove, then the Democratic town chairman in Branford, Mr. Lieberman's hometown.
The poll showed anti-abortion sentiment outweighed pro-choice views in urban areas throughout Connecticut. "In the Waterbury area, it was more than any, 12,000 [more] against," Mr. Cosgrove says.
"He expressed himself against abortion, all suicide, and euthanasia. His position on that definitely was well received by the archbishop and priests" religious leaders said.
In fact, Mr. Lieberman's pro-life assurances were so convincing that Archbishop Whealon arranged for the Democratic candidate to meet with Catholic priests throughout the state shortly before the November 1988 balloting. Mr. Lieberman's expressed pro-life views in those meetings, Father Berry said. "That probably was not insignificant" in the November 1988 election outcome, he said.
just don't care for liberman.
I still think Netanyahu would be an awesome appointment. The man knows terror and knows the best way to prevent it as much as prevention is possible...
Joseph Lieberman on Immigration Democratic Jr Senator (CT), ran for V.P. with Gore, ran for president 2004
Q: Should it become easier for undocumented foreign workers in the US to gain legal immigration status?
One-time earned legalization for undocumented immigrants A: As president, I will create a new one-time earned legalization status, improve family reunification laws, create a work visa program, and partner with the private sector to create a new 'American Dream Fund' to help all immigrants learn English. We've also got to face the fact that immigrants haven't been treated fairly in America since September 11th -- and we can do something about it. When I am president, I will protect the civil rights of immigrants -- right to counsel, timely notification of charges, guaranteed bond hearings, humane conditions, and much more.
Source: Associated Press policy Q&A, "Immigration" Jan 25, 2004 Q: How would you encourage those who are eligible to apply for citizenship?
Make sure immigrants are treated fairly A: I am for earned right of legalization for undocumented immigrants. I'm for temporary worker permits for people coming over. I'm for lifting the cap on family reunification which keeps immigrant families apart and I'm for lifting the cap on political refugees. We're one nation under God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. And that means making sure that our immigrants, new Americans are treated fairly.
Source: Iowa Brown and Black Presidential Forum Jan 11, 2004 Q: How do you separate the good guys from the bad guys? How do you separate the immigrants that come to this country with a legitimate interest in working and contributing and those potential terrorists that are here?
Unacceptable to allow Mexicans to die trying to immigrate LIEBERMAN: Let me begin by saying this. Immigration for me is not just another issue. It's me, it's my family, it's mi familia. My grandparents came here as immigrants seeking opportunity.
It pains me, and it outrages me that every year hundreds of Mexicans coming to America for exactly the same reason that my grandparents did die in the desert because of our current immigration policy. That is no longer acceptable.
This can't go on any longer. I have offered the most comprehensive, aggressive immigration reform plan. Yes, earned legalization. Yes, temporary worker visas for workers from other countries. Yes, let's lift the cap on people coming here for family reunification or to seek refuge.
Source: Democratic Primary Debate, Albuquerque New Mexico Sep 4, 2003
Notice that Liberman never answered the question about how he'd separate the terrorists from the "good guys," but he'd blow the immigration caps and give amnesty ("earned legalization" is the Democrat euphemism).
He also talked about right to counsel, guaranteed bond hearings, etc. That's in regard to our immigration courts, which can't even handle the current caseload. In many cases we're talking about slam dunk deportation hearings. Lieberman wants to grind that all to a halt.
Lieberman clearly has emotional issues regarding the subject of immigration. That's what anyone would want in a DHS Secretary?
This site is for Conservatives, in case you haven't figured it out yet.
LOL! In what way have I not been conservative? Do you think anyone from DU would have anything good to say about John Kyl, or anything negative to say about the Democrat governor of Arizona?
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He and President Bush were the best of friends it seemed during the 2000 campaign. Then after the President was elected we didn't hear much of anything from the Governor. Did they have a falling out?
Just my opinion, but this job needs a forceful person - not Elmer Fudd. Joe Albaugh is my choice.
Come along now, dear. The men in the white
coats are here. Everything's going to be just fine.
LOL! Oh, come on, one can wish can't I?
They both have international images, that I think would make certain elements take pause. IMO, Gordon Liddy may be too over the edge at this point. Oliver North, ONTHEOTHERHAND...
You haven't figured out that being pro-life is central to being a Conservative.
Defending the unborn is the foundation of conservatism, the be all and end all of conservatism.
Protecting the innocent unborn is the issue Conservatives sleep, eat, drink, and breathe.
LOL......there is a resemblance now that you mention it.
Nice find. Thanks for posting.
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. Many, if not most Conservatives would disgree with that rigid and close-minded opinion of what defines Conservatism. As President Bush himself has stated, good people can disagree on that matter. HE made Tom Ridge the first HS czar. You aren't holding yourself up as more important or informed on the Conservative movement than the President, are you???
There have been people who are so rigid in the belief that abortion is the central issue, that they have gone to abortion clinics and murdered doctors in cold blood.
Of course this post is rhetorical, because you never address me directly, for some odd reason. :)
Some of us, but not all of us. Probably not even you.
Do you check to see if your grocery clerk or auto mechanic are pro-life? How about the fireman carrying you out of a burning building, or the policeman preventing that intruder from assaulting you?
I'll bet you didn't answer "yes" for times.
I'm staunchly pro-life, and vote for pro-life candiates when possible, but I also recognize that there are occasions where abortion isn't the paramount consideration, or even relevant at all.
Lieberman's liberal policies are no worse than that of certain (non-Jewish) RINOs that almost everyone here praises. At least he understands (unlike many or most Dem politicians) that the world is a dangerous place.
It would be fun to watch the left's anti-Semitism come out in full force if Lieberman were selected. My how the leftists would sputter: "But, but, but, he is a J... Je... Jew... no uh, Zi... Zio... Zion... no uh, pro-Israel -- that's it! He's too pro-Israel!"
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