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Doctors: Yushchenko Poisoned With Dioxin
Yahoo.com ^ | 11 Dec 04 | SA

Posted on 12/11/2004 6:49:03 AM PST by Ginifer

VIENNA, Austria - The mysterious illness of Ukrainian opposition leader and presidential candidate Viktor Yushchenko was caused by dioxin poisoning that was likely intentional, doctors said Saturday.

Yushchenko has accused Ukrainian authorities of trying to poison him in the runup to a presidential vote marred by fraud. Ukraine's Supreme Court voided the outcome of that vote, which Yushchenko lost to Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych, and a rerun of the ballot is slated for Dec. 26.

Yushchenko first fell ill in September and was rushed to the Vienna hospital. He resumed campaigning later in the month but with a pockmarked and badly disfigured face.

He returned to the hospital later in September for further treatment and checked in for a third time Friday.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: attemptedmurder; conspiracy; dioxin; kgb; poison; putin; ukraine; yushchenko
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To: tscislaw
"She said she asked him about it and he said: "Don't worry about it" (or something to that effect)."

The words used would be most important. . .too easy to have the real context literally lost in the translation without knowing what he said - what she said he said -and meant. . . I mean his response might have been dismissive for any number of reasons - if in fact it was. . .

Whatever . . .will be high intrigue here to see what follows. . .paybacks on this one could be very high. . .

161 posted on 12/11/2004 7:22:38 PM PST by cricket (I)
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To: Destro; texasflower

PING!


162 posted on 12/11/2004 7:53:34 PM PST by Carling (What happened to Sandy Burglar's Docs?)
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To: texasflower

Ukraine is? Since when? Ukraine is an important ally because why?


163 posted on 12/11/2004 8:06:43 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: MeekOneGOP
It is hard - because if done on purpose it points to amateurs not KGB pros.
164 posted on 12/11/2004 8:07:34 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: texasflower
Be nice to him. I'm sure that he's apologized for all the silly accusations he was making yesterday about Yeschunko's disfigurement being due to shingles now that the poisoning has been clinically confirmed.
165 posted on 12/11/2004 8:11:36 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Destro

There have been plenty of threads here that describe the bridge so to speak that the Ukraine provides.

Both in an ideological and strategic way.

Find them yourself.


166 posted on 12/11/2004 8:24:40 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Destro

Hey destro. Who did this and why?


167 posted on 12/11/2004 8:25:30 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Yeah, I keep looking for that apology or admission.

It MUST be around here somewhere.........

I finally gave up and my latest question to him is who did it and why.

I can't wait to hear this one!

Keep watching this thread for the latest destro theory!


168 posted on 12/11/2004 8:27:40 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: texasflower

how do we know its a who?


169 posted on 12/11/2004 8:31:47 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro; FairOpinion
the victim may not eat enough to kill him

Possibility #1 of why the effort to assassinate Yuschenko failed

Or maybe they didn't want to kill him - how obvious would THAT be if he dropped dead in the middle of the campaign?

Isn't it possible that they simply wanted to steal his looks, thus making him unpalatable to the public (you must admit - he went from being "handsome and youthful" to being "hard to look at") and destroying him personally - a sure warning to anyone else who might challenge the establishment?

This thing looks more complicated than a guy trying to get the sympathy vote, IMO.

170 posted on 12/11/2004 8:36:28 PM PST by sandalwood ("Hail to alcohol - the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - - HJ Simpson)
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To: Destro; MeekOneGOP
I'm no biologist or scientist, but couldn't this have been a different type of chemical agent meant to leave traces of Dioxin after the initial assault on the body? It might not have been pure dioxin. Perhaps as well this is only what the doctors who have access to his tests were able to find. Perhaps he was poisoned by a mixed chemical agent previously unknown? You referred to Russia's vast chemical arsenal...

The doctors also said that if he had not reached doctors out of the country when he did he would have been dead in 24-48 hours. My guess is that if he had gone to a Ukranian hospital the tests never would have been released and we would be talking about a dead man. Did the ones who tried to poison him screw up? You betcha... Perhaps he noticed the taste, too and stopped eating?

Although I think there were other factors at play here that prevented it from being the tragedy it should have been... There but for the grace of God walks Yuschenko...
171 posted on 12/11/2004 8:38:45 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: Destro

Destro, I'm beginning to think you are fond of me. Why else would you play these games with me for days like this?

WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENED?


172 posted on 12/11/2004 8:39:34 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: texasflower
"Keep watching this thread for the latest destro theory!"

LMBO if it weren't so serious a matter. Destro and 2 others show up on most of these threads with theories that really run counter to common sense. I wonder what they personally have at stake in this election should Yuschenko finally take his place as President?
173 posted on 12/11/2004 8:42:09 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: All
people can spread all the disinformation they want.

what counts is for folks to know where good info can be found. in this case it's http://www.orange-revolution.com/

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174 posted on 12/11/2004 8:46:31 PM PST by mack98 (http://community.webshots.com/user/luzsa2004)
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To: LibertyRocks

I wonder what they have at stake as well.


175 posted on 12/11/2004 8:57:25 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: sandalwood
Isn't it possible that they simply wanted to steal his looks, thus making him unpalatable to the public (you must admit - he went from being "handsome and youthful" to being "hard to look at") and destroying him personally - a sure warning to anyone else who might challenge the establishment?

That means that the Ukranians are so vain they only vote for good looking people over ethnic/religion/issues. Would not such a thing make people angry and vote for the guy so obviously poisoned? The guy was not a fresh face he was prime minister before hand and left under a cloud of scandal.

176 posted on 12/11/2004 9:05:05 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: LibertyRocks

Where did you read he was at deaths door? If they did not know what he had until this weekend they could not have treated him for poisoning. He went to Austria for tests to see what he had. And no - no such chemical composition exists that makes another poison look like dioxin. Why even want dioxin in the mix? It is like a neon sign for chemists.


177 posted on 12/11/2004 9:07:41 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: LibertyRocks; texasflower

Excuse me - you are the people with the KBG theories. You don't even attempt at looking at this rationally. If I point out that dioxin is a poor poisoning agent for pros like the ex KGB to use etc it is YOU who insist that it has to be a Russian plot.


178 posted on 12/11/2004 9:11:03 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

I don't necessary think it's KGB, but I don't know for sure.

I told you in a previous post not more than couple of hours ago that it could just as well been some Ukrainian securtiy forces.

Stop avoiding the question. Who do you think did this and why.

AT least you have admitted he was poisoned.

But who destro and why?


179 posted on 12/11/2004 9:15:23 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Ginifer

It sounds more like small pox.


180 posted on 12/11/2004 9:16:28 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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