Freegards!!!
Posted on 12/11/2004 6:12:01 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
The 17 is THE .22 revolver. I also have an 18 that's nice. Have you ever checked out the S&W forum?
http://www.smith-wessonforum.com/cgi-bin/sandwcgi/Ultimate.cgi
Some of the stuff these guys have accumulated, and the pics that get posted have probably cost me thousands. :)
You need to weigh other factors, such as "What might happen if that .45 +P round goes through a wall", which is really what Mag Safe and the other frangibles are designed to minimize.
You could always mix a few frangibles in the front and Hydra Shocks behind. That way you might discourage or incapacitate an attacker but still have some heavier backup rounds if the frangibles don't do the trick.
Oh c'mon. You know what I meant. The Mod 29/629 is obviously a big heavy mutha. I owned both, and I know which was good for what.
And I had a lot of unmushroomed hollow points come out of the snubby SP101. Not enough muzzle velocity. Test it yourself, using Hydra Shocks.
Agreed. IIRC they've also done a lot of good work with the NRA to overhaul that short but intense blight on their reputation.
The 9mm Beretta has been and always will be a sloppy piece of slapdash Euro-Trash.
If the 9mm was supposed to be "The Hot Lick" in sidearms when it first appeared. Why were Special Forces the first ones to scream about its lack of stopping power?
The .40 caliber by Sig Saure is a bit better, but like the Beretta. Has too many bells and whistles (De-Cocking lever) that aren't needed.
Go back to the standard 1911A1 Colt .45 ACP for ALL armed forces!
Jack.
I knew but not all readers would. :-)
Not the DAK. It's DA only
"My, that's a big one."
(tech note: the Cor-Bon 440 grain loading is rated at 2,665 ft/lbs of muzzle energy, surpassing that of an M14 rifle.)
True, paul:
Though, I always fall back on the old adage:
"If you are going to carry a piece. Carry a F^%&*#ing piece!" One that will knock whomever you have in your sights down. Wherever you hit them!
The 9mm hasn't lived up to that adage (excluding head shots). The jury's still out on the .40 caliber.
The only handgun that has been and can again be mass produced to fill the bill is Ol' Slabsides!
Even with its backstrap grip and manual safeties. It's still the only pistol I'm comfortable and confident to carry cocked and locked.
Jack.
Mine: 6-inch S&W Model 66 .357 with Federal 130 grain Hydra-Shok rounds. I don't trust frangible rounds because they give lousy penetration; a surface wound is not going to stop a determined attacker. I want bullets which can make gaping exit wounds.
Next pistol will be a Sig Sauer P220 in .45 ACP.
My local gunshop has one of those in the case
ok, sounds good
Got both a .40 SW and .357 SIG barrel for it. Barrel swap just takes a few moments. I've found that I'm much more accurate with the .357 SIG barrel and ammo than .40 SW.
Hmmm... haven't gone shooting in quite some time. Maybe the coming Christmas holiday would be a good time to go blast away with some of the toys. The AR15 needs a workout, too.
Still lusting for a .50 BMG, though. It'll have to wait quite awhile, though. Too many other things are ranking higher on my list.
Interesting except for the erroneous info on Beretta lifespans...
Freegards!!!
How do you justify the legend of the 45's ENORMOUS stopping power? Tests show 357 stopping power is right up there with the 45 and 357/40 energies are sometimes exceeding those of the 45 depending on loadings.
Is the 45 a better stopper? Maybe. But not enough better that can be quantified. All are "INADEQUATE" manstoppers and one should go with the one that he can place the better shots with. You like the 45. OK. But I'll stay with my 357's and 40's.
With expanding bullets, the .357 Mag, .40 S&W and the .45 ACP are about equal in stopping power.
In the case of full metal jacket military-type ammo, I think the .45 has the edge simply because of its larger diameter.
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