[Antoninus]

But there is no excuse for the greatest and wealthiest country in the world to send its men and women off to war ill-equipped and ill-supplied.

There is absolutely no evidence that our troops are "ill-equipped and ill-supplied." You will now cite for me an armed force in the history of the world that was better equipped and supplied than our current army in Iraq.

You're being alarmist and a water-boy for our enemies in the media. Knock it off.

[Palladin]

Don't you tell me to knock it off. I've been here as long as you.

You know what got my attention during the conference? The LOUD ROARING CHEERS of the men who are risking their lives every day, while you and I sit at our computers.

That's when I perked up and listened to the old SOB and his weak and futile answers.

If you don't like my opoinions, just scroll. Or take a flying leap. Or whatever.

Rumsfeld has to go. A lot ofpeople in the admin and in the military brass know that. But they are afraid of his power.