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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"People who would abuse or torture innocent animals are people who would do the same (to humans) under the right circumstances," Fowle said.

Welcome to the Pre-Crime unit. 18 months is too harsh for animal abuse. Make the guy do a ton of community service and probation, toss in some counseling, maybe a month or two behind bars. 18 months is waaaaaaay out of line for killing an animal.

14 posted on 12/08/2004 12:50:03 PM PST by American_Centurion (I am the martyrs' bane.)
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To: American_Centurion
Don't agree with you. His method of cruelty and control is a sign of a sicko.

Here's hoping he gets a severe beating in prison.

21 posted on 12/08/2004 12:52:42 PM PST by zarf
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To: American_Centurion

He deserves much, much more than 18 months. That type of person can't be trusted around anyone or anything helpless.


30 posted on 12/08/2004 12:55:42 PM PST by najida (Aunt to Miss Emily Ann- Cutest Baby in the World.)
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To: American_Centurion

--"People who would abuse or torture innocent animals are people who would do the same (to humans) under the right circumstances," Fowle said.--

--Welcome to the Pre-Crime unit. 18 months is too harsh for animal abuse. Make the guy do a ton of community service and probation, toss in some counseling, maybe a month or two behind bars. 18 months is waaaaaaay out of line for killing an animal.--

18 months in prison does seem a bit excessive. I would have favored perhaps a couple of months in prison, a restraining order with severe consequences against repeats of such action, and a hefty, hefty financial fine. It gives both the prison record and hits him where he'll remember it -- in the pocketbook.

My fear on making this too excessive is that veal will eventually result in 18 months in prison before the activists are through using these laws. I love my animals and would want hefty retribution if they were tortured and killed by some moron, but I'd rather get financial compensation and see the courts make it a "he owes me" situation as opposed to a "he owes society" situation. It's obviously a different situation with people being harmed, but when it's an animal I expect it to be treated more as property than person.


47 posted on 12/08/2004 1:01:15 PM PST by TitansAFC (Al Gonzales for SCOTUS? Let's just nominate Arlen Specter.)
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To: American_Centurion
Puh-leeze. Judgment of what a criminal might do in the future has always been part of criminal sentencing -- otherwise, there would be absolutely no justification for punishing Murder One more severely than manslaughter.
64 posted on 12/08/2004 1:06:38 PM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: American_Centurion

Anyone who would torture a domestic animal death would probably do the same to a human.


109 posted on 12/08/2004 1:28:18 PM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: American_Centurion

Disagree. 5 years hard labor would have been much more fitting.


140 posted on 12/08/2004 1:50:15 PM PST by Melas
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