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Flap erupts over photos of Bush at market stand (RAT demands it come down!)
LancasterOnline.com ^ | 12/03/04 | John M. Spidaliere

Posted on 12/07/2004 10:07:49 AM PST by Phantom Lord

Flap erupts over photos of Bush at market stand
Democrat City Councilman Nelson Polite says the photos are inappropriate in a public place.
Others rally behind standholder.

LANCASTER COUNTY, PA - David Stoltzfus says there’s only one reason he would take down the photos of President George W. Bush that he has displayed at his Central Market baked-goods stand.

Bush would have had to have lost the recent election. Instead, he beat Democratic challenger John Kerry to win a second term.

“If it were Kerry that won, he’d be up there,’’ says Stoltzfus, who operates the Upper Crust stand.

Doesn’t matter, says City Councilman Nelson Polite. “It should come down. This is a public market.”

Besides, says the Democrat, “Bush didn’t win here (in Lancaster City). It is like rubbing salt on a wound.”

Polite approached Stoltzfus on Nov. 12 and ask him to remove the pictures. The standholder has refused to do so, prompting Polite to say he will ask City Council to change the law so that all political items would be banned in public places.

Today, Stoltzfus pointed proudly to a photo of a smiling Bush, framed in green, that hangs above his stand.

The photo, attached to the stand portico with four brass screws, has hung there for nearly two years, since Stoltzfus and his wife, Nina, opened the market stand in March 2003.

They sell cakes, cookies and other baked items.

They also have a signed 8-by-10-inch photo of the president and first lady Laura Bush sitting on a shelf below, “right next to the pictures of my grandkids,’’ says Stoltzfus.

“I’m just trying to sell a few cakes and give honor to the president,’’ he says.

But Polite, a Democrat, says the photos should go.

When he approached Stoltzfus three weeks ago, he said the photo offended him and city Democrats.

Polite says he had received complaints from constituents who thought the photos were inappropriate, especially after the presidential election.

The market is public property and displaying political paraphernalia, no matter what the intent, says Polite, is inappropriate and divisive.

Stoltzfus is a Republican, but that hardly matters, he says. He displays the photo to honor the office, not the man.

Polite says political items do not belong in Central Market and if Stoltzfus refuses to take down the photos, he’ll take the matter before City Council to get the city law changed to ban all political items in public places.

“There should be rules,’’ says Polite.

Even if Kerry had won, he’d be asking Stoltzfus to take the photos down, says Polite.

A string of supporters, including Republican Mayor Charlie Smithgall and former Republican Mayor Art Morris, have made their way to the Upper Crust to offer their support to Stoltzfus.

“We have no regulations against it,” says Smithgall. “He is the president of the United States. If he wants to put a picture of (Democratic) Gov. Rendell up, that’s fine by me.”

Smithgall said Stoltzfus asked for a picture of him to hang up.

“I said, ‘Yeah, right.’”

Some of Stoltzfus’ fellow standholders are considering putting up photos of Bush in solidarity with Stoltzfus.

Kim Moyer, at the Lancaster Juice Company, says Polite was “out of line.”

“(Stoltzfus) has every right to put the pictures up. We pays rent here. Anyway, we’re in America.”

Market Master Ernie Thomas said there are no rules about hanging political items at market stands.

Even if there was, says Thomas, “That is our president, whether it is a Democrat or a Republican.”

Jim Zink, the owner of the Herb Shop stand, says he is a Democrat. But he’ll hang a photo of Bush to support Stoltzfus’ right to hang his.

“He has every right to hang it,’’ Zink says of Stoltzfus. He says it doesn’t offend him as a Democrat to see Bush.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; acluwatch; bush; business; democrats; facists; freedom; lancaster; liberals; pa; pennsylvania; photo; power; president; private; property; rats; speech
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To: Phantom Lord

These people are just insane.


21 posted on 12/07/2004 10:14:21 AM PST by JennysCool (A plan is not a litany of complaints)
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To: WakeUpAndVote; The Flying Dutchman

PA PING!


22 posted on 12/07/2004 10:14:27 AM PST by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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To: Phantom Lord

This is hilarious! What a great article to post--thanks!

I can't believe that petty little democrat politician is trying to strong-arm the market...what a clymer!


23 posted on 12/07/2004 10:14:29 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Phantom Lord

Sounds like someone has a knot is his BVD's! What a hoot!


24 posted on 12/07/2004 10:14:33 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Phantom Lord
I think I know what this thread needs:


25 posted on 12/07/2004 10:14:50 AM PST by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
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To: Phantom Lord
The market is public property and ...

Isn't the Office of the President a 'public' position?

26 posted on 12/07/2004 10:14:53 AM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: BurbankKarl

I wrote him saying the Pajama Bloggers were on the case....


27 posted on 12/07/2004 10:15:09 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Phantom Lord

Wow this really goes beyond the pale. The democrats have really hit a new level of facist nuttiness with this one.


28 posted on 12/07/2004 10:15:17 AM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: Phantom Lord
When he approached Stoltzfus three weeks ago, he said the photo offended him and city Democrats.

Polite says he had received complaints from constituents who thought the photos were inappropriate, especially after the presidential election.

FReepers should give this guy all the business he could want. It's worth it to keep hearing liberals whine. Hilarious.

Call the Waaambulance, Polite.

29 posted on 12/07/2004 10:15:27 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: joanie-f

Bump.


30 posted on 12/07/2004 10:15:38 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Phantom Lord
“There should be rules,’’ says Polite.

Sounds like there should be a petiton to have this guys last name changed to something more appropriate...like Nasty.

31 posted on 12/07/2004 10:15:45 AM PST by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (I suck at my current job, so PROMOTE me. - Peter-Principle Kerry)
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To: Phantom Lord

Bush may not have won Lancaster City but he won the county 2-1.

Good men (and women) like Stolzfus helped.


32 posted on 12/07/2004 10:16:02 AM PST by pa mom
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To: All

Where is the ACLU on this???


33 posted on 12/07/2004 10:16:06 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Phantom Lord
Jim Zink, the owner of the Herb Shop stand, says he is a Democrat. But he’ll hang a photo of Bush to support Stoltzfus’ right to hang his.

I'm very touched by that comment. After having shrieking radical leftists shoved in our faces for the past couple of years it's easy to lose sight of the fact that some Democrats may actually be sane. Thank you, Jim Zink. You're a great American.

34 posted on 12/07/2004 10:16:28 AM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: Mannaggia l'America

He's as honest as every other liberal.


35 posted on 12/07/2004 10:16:31 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Phantom Lord
Stoltzfus, who operates the Upper Crust stand.

"Upper Crust" -- a perfect name for the evil rich Republicans .... LOL

36 posted on 12/07/2004 10:16:44 AM PST by beyond the sea (I know beyond a doubt ...... my heart will lead me there)
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To: Phantom Lord
Hmmm. I think I'm suddenly in favor of putting George W. Bush's face on the $20 bill...
37 posted on 12/07/2004 10:16:45 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Phantom Lord

I don't think Polite is being very polite...


38 posted on 12/07/2004 10:17:30 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Phantom Lord

“There should be rules,’’ says Polite.

Absolutely. Rule 1: Re-read the lst Amendment. Rule 2: Change your last name to something that more accurately describes your brown-shirt attitude.


39 posted on 12/07/2004 10:17:33 AM PST by Clioman
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To: Phantom Lord
This sounds like a bad case of "Sore-Loserman" to me.

ol' hoghead

40 posted on 12/07/2004 10:18:38 AM PST by ol' hoghead
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