Germany thwarts "attack on Iraq PM"

Reuters ^ | 12/3/04 | Mark Trevelyan

[Coop]

BERLIN (Reuters) - German police have arrested three Iraqis in a series of raids and the federal prosecutor says he believed they were planning an attack on visiting Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi.

Prosecutor Kay Nehm said the raids were launched after police in southwest Germany intercepted a series of increasingly "hectic" telephone conversations pointing to an attack...

[Dog Gone]

It is a bad thing. People will continue to live there, but they're going to be immigrants who will have changed Germany the way Los Angeles has been changed.

I don't have anything against Turks, other than their shameful behavior before the Iraq invasion, but they're not Germans, in any real sense.

[veraamhang]

the Turkish don't agree with the liberal German culture

[Dog Gone]

The Christian Democrats came within a whisker of winning in 2002, and the German government could very well have been an ally with boots on the ground in Iraq. I'm not familiar with the Turkish political leanings in Germany, but it seems unlikely that the Turks who can legally vote would ally themselves with any party that has "christian" in its name. Am I missing something?

[Dog]

Thanks for the ping Coop..

[death2tyrants]

Here is one for ansar al-islam


http://www.iraqinews.com/org_ansar_al-islam.shtml

Names
Ansar al-Islam (Supporters of Islam)
Jund al-Islam
Soldiers of God

General
Ansar al-Islam is a radical Kurdish Islamic group that is supportive of Saddam Hussein's regime. This group is located in the pseudo-autonomous Northern Iraq. This group has ties with Taliban and al-Qaeda. It is the most radical group operating in the Iraqi Kurdistan region.

Background
Ansar al-Islam was established in December 2001 after a merger between Jund al-Islam, led by Abu Abdallah al-Shafi'i and the Islamic Movement splinter group led by Mullah Krekar. Both leaders are believed to have served in Afghanistan. The group is based in Biyarah and surrounding areas near the border with Iran.

Activities
Ansar al-Islam recent activities include: razing of beauty salons, burning a schools for girls, and murdered women in the streets for refusing to wear the burqa. It has seized a Taliban-style enclave of 4,000 civilians and several villages near the Iranian border. It is also responsible for ambushing and killing of 42 Kurdish soldiers. Ansar al-Islam is in a state of war with the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK). It was responsible for the assassination in 2001 of a senior official of the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP), Franso Hariri, and for the attempted killing of Burhan Salih, head of the PUK-led Iraqi Kurdistan regional government. However, Ansar al-Islam is not in armed confrontation with the KDP.

Strength
About 700 members.

Additional Info
According to some reports, the group has received $600,000 from al-Qaeda, and a delivery of weapons and Toyota Land Cruisers. There are also reports stating that Ansar al-Islam received $35,000 from the Mukhabarat branch of Iraqi Intelligence Service, in addition to a considerable quantity of arms. The leader of Ansar al-Islam, Mullah Krekar has been captured in September of 2002.

[UCANSEE2]

If half the other countries would live just up to Germany's standard, we could take our planet back from organized crime.

[wu_trax]

a lot of things changed since 1972. we have limitations on freedom of speech etc. here that would make you people grap your semi-automatic assault rifle and start a revolution.

[self_evident]

I don't have enough evidence for that, though we might remember their dealing with the 1972 Olympics terror attack. In addition, Germany allows the militant Islamic ideology of terror unhindered activities in its boundaries under the pretext of political correctness and diversity.

They also played host to Mohammad Atta and his cronies.

[GermanEnglishHistorian]

I have read a couple of your comments. It is very clear that you are hating Germany with a passion. However, you should learn to get your facts straight before making blatant assumptions:

I don't have enough evidence for that, though we might remember their dealing with the 1972 Olympics terror attack
There WAS no anti-terror police force before the 1972 incident. This incident was the reason for one to be created. So how is comparing today to 1972 even remotely relevant?

In addition, Germany allows the militant Islamic ideology of terror unhindered activities in its boundaries under the pretext of political correctness and diversity.
This is rich. The "unhindered" activities include more and more police razzias in recent times and increasing arrests of terrorists and hate preachers. But the best part of your post is the "pretext". IF "political correctness and diversity" are only the "pretext", then you can surely tell me what the real reason is? And, don´t just claim it, provide SOURCES!

[GermanEnglishHistorian]

They also played host to Mohammad Atta and his cronies.

So did the US IIRC.

[yonif]

is very clear that you are hating Germany with a passion.

Nope.

There WAS no anti-terror police force before the 1972 incident. This incident was the reason for one to be created. So how is comparing today to 1972 even remotely relevant?

In Germany there wasn't, but in Israel there was. I have read reports that Israel offered to send a team to help them, but Germany refused.

This is rich. The "unhindered" activities include more and more police razzias in recent times and increasing arrests of terrorists and hate preachers. But the best part of your post is the "pretext". IF "political correctness and diversity" are only the "pretext", then you can surely tell me what the real reason is? And, don´t just claim it, provide SOURCES!

The best evidence for this is the fact Germany maintains a pro-Arab stance, instead of supporting a country (Israel) fighting terrorism. It seems Germany is concerned about its own Islamist population acting up if it became more pro-Israel.

Here is one example of just what I said:

Dec. 3 - An intense behind-the-scenes diplomatic struggle over a controversial Saudi-funded academy in Germany has shed new light on the close relationship between Saudi government officials and an international network of mosques and schools—some of which, Western intelligence officials say, have become breeding grounds for terrorism.

Local German officials announced their intention to shut the school down after receiving intelligence reports that Muslim militants from throughout Germany—some of them with suspected terrorist connections—were flocking to the area to send their children to the academy.

But after expressing its own alarm, the German government quickly changed its tune. German Interior Minister Otto Schily recently praised the King Fahd Academy as an “important cultural institution” and denounced the media campaign against the school as a threat to Saudi-German relations.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3660811/

[GermanEnglishHistorian]

@your alleged Germany hate: it sure seems so from some of your other postings (I am a long time lurker), but of course, I could be wrong, it´s just an assumption after all

@Israel:
I am VERY much pro-Israel, which has nothing to do with holocaust or anything like that. It is very simple: There is a country, surrounded by MORTAL enemies that have no goal other than to completely wipe out that country. Its citizens are subject of terrorist attacks on a weekly, if not daily basis. It has survived several wars, fighting for the very existence of its nation and people. Honestly, if my people would be subject to all those terrorist attacks, I would wholeheartedly agree with every wall built to increase the safety of my people. Unfortunately I have to admit I am in the minority here in Germany. Though I do know A FEW staunch supporters of Israel the majority tends to side with the Palestinians. Nothing to do with antisemitism, it´s just the way the Pal. are always shown as the "victims" of aggression in our media... I just wish all those wacko European liberals would live in Israel for a while to see what it´s like...

The King Fahd Academy is indeed a disgrace. If it was up to me I´d close that place today and tear it apart.

[Straight Vermonter]

Try this one http://www.specialoperations.com/Terrorism/Terrorist_Groups/

[Racehorse]

http://www.specialoperations.com/Terrorism/Terrorist_Groups/

http://www.iraqinews.com/org_ansar_al-islam.shtml

Much thanks for the links.  They help quite a bit.  A lot, actually!