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One more unconstitutional Nanny ( we Think we know what’s best for you ) Government law. Which we were told would never be used to stop you with.

What they don’t tell you. And is suppressed big time. Is all the deaths and injures seatbelts cause!

“clicking” on you seatbelt on is a 50-50 proposition 50% chance it will save you 50% chance it will kill you.

As with the helmet laws. Let those who drive deside.
( maybe there needs to be a helmet law for cars too)/s

1 posted on 11/30/2004 5:20:33 PM PST by quietolong
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The coppers can do it here south of the WI border in IL. It sucks. I wear my belt all the time anyway, but ticketing someone who is stupid enough not to wear it is just plain annoying.


2 posted on 11/30/2004 5:22:02 PM PST by metalmanx2j (Thank the Good Lord for George W. Bush)
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No. I think they should also be able to ticket anyone who owns property since the whole world now knows that all the land on the planet belongs to Robert Mugabe, President of Zimbabwe, since he is the closest living relative of Lucy.


3 posted on 11/30/2004 5:23:59 PM PST by Cornpone ((Aging Warrior))
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Seatbelts actually make people better drivers. An individual is better able to control his vehicle when he's not swaying and being pushed about his seat with the acceleration, or turning of the Vehicle. Ineritia
So there are less accidents


5 posted on 11/30/2004 5:27:37 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (See and decide for yourself)
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No. If they can't even ask you if you're an illegal alien, they shouldn't be able to make you wear a seat belt.


9 posted on 11/30/2004 5:38:40 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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Florida you get ticketed if you don't wear a seatbelt.
12 posted on 11/30/2004 5:42:00 PM PST by Ginifer
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I wear my belt all the time because if I am in an accident without it, the auto insurance companies can dispute paying for injuries.


13 posted on 11/30/2004 5:45:24 PM PST by Old Phone Man
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Nanny govm't. That's what all the clowns want.


15 posted on 11/30/2004 5:45:51 PM PST by spunkets
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When our seatbelt law in Michigan was enacted they swore up and down that they would never stop someone for a seatbelt violation alone. Today they can do exactly that.

Seatbelts are a top notch idea but a really bad law.


17 posted on 11/30/2004 5:50:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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No.


20 posted on 11/30/2004 5:58:06 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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Voted NO. I am tired of all this statist nonsense.


21 posted on 11/30/2004 5:58:54 PM PST by NeoCaveman (http://route-82.blogspot.com (Now with 20% more stuned beebers))
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"One more unconstitutional Nanny ( we Think we know what’s best for you ) Government law."

What constitutional covenant would you be referring to?

All seat belt laws are STATE laws. (Granted the federales blackmail the states into passing such laws with the threat of withholding highway building funds.)

The closest covenant I could find in the Wisconsin State Constitution that could be used to declare the state seat belt law unconstitutional is:

Equality; inherent rights.

SECTION 1. [As amended Nov. 1982 and April 1986]

All people are born equally free and independent, and have certain inherent rights; among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness; to secure these rights, governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. [1979 J.R. 36, 1981 J.R. 29, vote Nov. 1982; 1983 J.R. 40, 1985 J.R. 21, vote April 1986]

The "inherent right...liberty" would imply each person shall decide whether to wear a seat belt or not.

The constitutional basis for stopping the federales at their blackmail maneuver is Amendment IX:

The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights SHALL NOT be construed to DENY OR DISPARAGE others (rights) retained by the people.

The people have the retained right to decide to wear a seat belt or not.

24 posted on 11/30/2004 6:01:38 PM PST by tahiti
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What they don’t tell you. And is suppressed big time. Is all the deaths and injures seatbelts cause!

Sources, please?

41 posted on 11/30/2004 6:31:06 PM PST by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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Should police in Wisconsin be able to ticket just for seatbelt violations?

No. What good does it do to issue a citation? Why inconvenience the driver by demanding a court appearance when the same thing can be accomplished by just impounding the vehicle?

44 posted on 11/30/2004 6:42:04 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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Absolutely not! Whether or not I wear seatbelts (and I absolutely religiously DO)is NOBODY'S business but mine. All it amounts to is a tax on automobiles. If these civil nannies were at all concerned, they'd get motorcycles the hell off the road for the simple reasons that there are no seatbelts, no air bags, no side impact standards, etc, etc, that the auto drivers are being drowned in.

I don't have anything against motorcycles whatsoever, but I resent them being totally immune to safety (not wearing seatbelts), air (no emission controls whatever), and noise standards (incredible amounts of noise from cycles that no car can duplicate) that the auto drivers are faced with.

Leave the motorcyclists and auto drivers ALONE. It's a TAX that the local and state governments are too cowardly to pass thru the voting booth.


47 posted on 11/30/2004 6:52:52 PM PST by laweeks (I)
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Yes, if the elected reps pass such a law. Remember what it says in every state driver's manual: "driving is a privilege, not a right." If we start confusing inconvenient restrictions with Constitutional liberties, then we make the same error the Left makes when they confuse the Second Ammendment with the driving privilege, or some other act of State or Federal government.


48 posted on 11/30/2004 6:53:01 PM PST by pawdoggie
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In King Georges' country (NY) ANY moving violation is probable cause (another Mario legacy).


53 posted on 11/30/2004 7:52:12 PM PST by printhead
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Why should Wisconsin be different than other areas of the country?


55 posted on 11/30/2004 8:00:33 PM PST by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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A few days after being a pall bearer at my best friend's funeral (he was murdered, still unsolved), I got pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt. I was fuming and lucky to not get arrested. Things like "why don't you do your G*d damned job and find the people who killed my friend instead of picking on me", etc.

The Safety Nazis are out of control in this country. It will be our ruin. If seatbelt law supporters are so GD concerned about the medical costs of injuries, why not outlaw recreational sports. Costs due to them far outweigh car accident injuries. Also, outlaw homosexual sex because AIDS costs us billions of dollars per year.


57 posted on 11/30/2004 8:14:10 PM PST by mikegi
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No. I'm tired of arrogant liberal laws designed to "protect us from ourselves".


71 posted on 12/01/2004 9:22:54 AM PST by Santana (Proud aunt of niece serving in Iraq)
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Result: 66% say no.


72 posted on 12/01/2004 10:22:32 AM PST by spunkets
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