Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Liberal revisionism: "the evil, corrupt society" of the fifties and sixties.
11/29/04 | Republican Professor

Posted on 11/29/2004 5:20:00 AM PST by Republicanprofessor

"In 1950’s and 60’s, Existentialism was in full swing against the evil, corrupt society."

One of my liberal colleagues, in a lecture on Existentialism, said this quote several years ago. I am reworking this lecture for my own class, and, again, I am working out of my speciality. I am doing fine on the Existentialist part, but this one comment caught my eye this time around.

I was a bit young in the late fifties to remember much on my own, and I do remember the rebellion, riots and assasinations of the 1960s. I imagine the threat of nuclear war in the fifties might be part of this.

But I was interested in FReepers reaction to that comment about "the evil, corrupt society" of the fifties and sixties. What is your take on those decades and how the liberals are twisting them in revisionism? Wasn't the fifties the happy decades of "Leave it to Beaver" and "Father Knows Best?"

I look forward to your comments.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: education; liberalism
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

1 posted on 11/29/2004 5:20:01 AM PST by Republicanprofessor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor

Like you, I'm not old enough to have a mature remembrance of the 1950s. However, I can remember that the events of the late 60s represented a cataclysmic change from previous standards of public behavior, in everything from the kind of language people used to the content of films to the range of subjects that came to be considered "acceptable" for public discourse. Within a very short period of time -- less than ten years -- there were actions as diverse as banning of prayer in public schools, widespread use of profanity in the movies, legalization of abortion and open, casual drug use. While the underpinnings of this were no doubt brewing for many years, it really did just explode on our society and turned it on its head. The kind of crudeness and crassness we see all around us today would have been completely unimaginable before the late 60s. While "Leave It To Beaver" may have been a bit more simplistic than real life, it was a lot closer to it than the garbage that supposedly represents "reality" today. I think back to my own friends from school -- no single-parent families, divorce almost unknown, mostly stay-at-home mothers -- it was a very different world both in style and in substance.


2 posted on 11/29/2004 5:38:51 AM PST by speedy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor

I was born in 1950. My memories are happy innocent children attending Sunday school, a 4 room school house where we actually behaved and were taught well, and a mother who was always home with us. My history teacher repeated, "better dead than red", informing us of the evils of Communism.
The sixties brought the hippies, the British Invasion into rock & roll, war protestors, Vietnam body counts, drugs, mini-skirts/hot pants, "if it feels good do it" mentality, and pray was taken out of schools. I could go on, but it depresses me.


3 posted on 11/29/2004 5:44:58 AM PST by raisincane (Bush/Cheney and their MANDATE = US has spoken.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor

Even at the time there was disagreement about whether we were excellent or decadent. From our current vantage point, we can see things that were bad then. Racial segregation let everybody know what everybody's place was, and even though we were richer than ever before, there was much more severe and widespread poverty than now. Yet, as a child growing up in the 50's, I felt rich and fortunate to be an American. Even though my parents (who had lived through the depression) worried about poverty engulfing them, I didn't. But in the 50's we had the ever present fear of nuclear war as well as fears of overly regimented institutions (The Organization Man). I don't see Existentialism (a french philosophy that emphasised being over essence and the individual hero over the collective, despite Sartre's slide into collectivist Maoism) as having much to do with criticism of American life. The avante-garde critics of 50's life were less Marxists than they were in the 60's and more individualists (hipsters, beats, nonconformists).
Living through them, the 50's seemed a golden age. Looking back, I suppose the time had its flaws; but it was better, for a greater proportion of people, than any preceding time.


4 posted on 11/29/2004 5:46:36 AM PST by Stirner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor

History, but not conteporary historians, might well judge the 1950s to be the apogee of the Great American Pageant.


5 posted on 11/29/2004 5:48:16 AM PST by nathanbedford
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor
Keep in mind that existentialism began as a European phenomenon; and its philosophical and academic influences were primarily, if not entirely, European. The post-war attitude in France, for example, was quite different than our own...
6 posted on 11/29/2004 5:52:32 AM PST by Fraulein
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor
I was struck by the Taschen books "All-American Ads of the 50s" and "All-American Ads of the 60s" containing hundreds of advertisements from print media. I wholeheartedly reccomend it for an exciting journey, one of the best $50 you can spend on books. Sort of watching how your favorite blockbuster movie was made or how magician's tricks work.

Counterculture was sold to unsuspecting public the same way.

7 posted on 11/29/2004 5:57:10 AM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor

marked for future reading.


8 posted on 11/29/2004 5:57:46 AM PST by CriticalJ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor
Back in the days of "a handshake was goods as a contract" bump.
9 posted on 11/29/2004 6:02:46 AM PST by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Fraulein
Keep in mind that existentialism began as a European phenomenon; and its philosophical and academic influences were primarily, if not entirely, European. The post-war attitude in France, for example, was quite different than our own...

Great point. I think Europeans were suffering much more from the end of WWII and the beginnings of the Cold War. If you can elaborate more, I would greatly appreciate it. Sometimes memories and thoughts of FReepers are more alive than dead academic research and statistics.

10 posted on 11/29/2004 6:05:24 AM PST by Republicanprofessor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: speedy
The worst thing about the 60s was the rise of liberalism.
11 posted on 11/29/2004 6:08:18 AM PST by Let's Roll (For a guy who shirked his own job, Kerry sure was eager to tell others how to do theirs ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor
I grew up in the era.

In 1960, most families lived on Dad's income. Moms stayed home to care for the kids. My family was typical. My Dad had a high school education, did not have what would be considered a great job, Mom didn't work outside the home, and, although things were tight at times, we made it just fine.

In 1960, parents let their children roam freely around town without any serious worries about their kids being murdered, abducted, or otherwise harmed by strangers (at least where I lived, which I think was pretty typical). Parents didn't give a second thought to their kids running around "without supervision".

In 1960, parents could park their kids in front of the TV or radio, tune to any channel, and not worry about what was being broadcast.

In 1960, as far as I can tell, my parents and my public school teachers shared the same values: support of family, love of country, hard work, community.

In 1960, parents simply had to spend a lot less time worrying about the safety and well being of their children. They didn't have to "fight the culture"; the culture stood beside them in raising their kids.

I heard the word "homosexual" for the first time in junior high (mid 60's), and found out what it meant only late in high school. No fringe groups pushed their political agenda via the schools. Every other character on TV wasn't "gay".

In 1960, for better or for worse, most people stayed married.

In 1960, no one worried about being sued for nonsense or nothing. There were no professional "victims".

In 1960, the Boy Scouts and their mission were universally honored, not mercilessly attacked.

In 1960, African Americans were legally discriminated against, but that would change in a few years. The general decency of Americans saw to that.

Except for the discrimination issue, I view the changes in this culture with horror and disgust. Would I go back to 1960, sans the discrimination problem? Oh, how I would love to do that. It was a wonderful time.

It is today's culture that is evil and corrupt, not the culture of 1960. To think otherwise is to be either morally confused, badly misinformed, or deliberately self-deceived.

12 posted on 11/29/2004 6:17:43 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Semi Civil Servant
>>>>>In 1960, most families lived on Dad's income. Moms stayed home to care for the kids. My family was typical. My Dad had a high school education, did not have what would be considered a great job, Mom didn't work outside the home, and, although things were tight at times, we made it just fine.<<<<

Adjusted for inflation, average husband's salary in the 1960's was more than COMBINED husband and wife salaries in 2000. Say thanks to the women's lib.

My guess is that in 2040 even children will work and the whole family and their dog's income will be less than your dad alone made in 1960.

13 posted on 11/29/2004 6:40:33 AM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor
I don't remember anyone pointing out that the TV sitcom "Happy Days" was inappropriately titled.
14 posted on 11/29/2004 6:51:33 AM PST by narby
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor
I was born in the early 60's....so the 50's were already history to me. However, as the late 60's came along, the war was raging, the protesters were protesting, burning flags and such. My parents were shocked and horrified at these events as we watched the evening news every night. These images are still in my head.

My father explained the evils of communism to me and said that was what we were fighting against in the war. He feared a communist revolution in America during the 60's.

I remember the 70's....Watergate....the Iran Hostages...the Cold War. The economy was terrible. My father, being a construction worker, was unemployed through most of the decade, except when he would go to another state for months to work until that job was finished.

After the fall of the Berlin wall, like most of you here on FR, I was convinced we were free of the communist threat. But as my kids started going to school and I saw how the school system had changed over the years, I began to get worried again. The concept of individualism had been replaced.

While Bill Clinton was President, we all watched the "Liberal Agenda" unfold before our eyes. I was in the Navy when he forced the Gays in the military issue.

Anyway....I don't like to ramble.

existentialism

A philosophy that emphasizes the uniqueness and isolation of the individual experience in a hostile or indifferent universe, regards human existence as unexplainable, and stresses freedom of choice and responsibility for the consequences of one's acts.

Source - Dictionary.com

I have said it before, and I'll say it again....the word "Liberal" is the politically correct term for communist.

Now would be a good time to refresh your memory of the communist goals in America, posted here at Newsmax....

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/5/8/133540.shtml
15 posted on 11/29/2004 7:00:36 AM PST by Navydog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor

I beg to differ with said colleague. Existentialism rejects the concept of masses; the 60s was simply a social order of a different kind, accelerated by a war (or, rather, a draft).

In general, things were good in the 50s, and I believe that spoiled kids, under a too good and easy life, will turn out to be hippies of one sort or another. Plus, of course, commercial television probably played a big part in the whole "spoiled" mess.

Don't get to say this often, but existentialism might be too generalized an explanation for the 50s and 60s.


16 posted on 11/29/2004 7:01:58 AM PST by AmericanChef
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor

My older brother remembers everyone dressing in their best for Church on Sunday, or when going out to dinner. He remembers extended family that stretched generations at reunions. Respect for teachers and authority, no profanity in front of the ladies. He remembers it as innocent and patriotic, the pledge and a prayer before classes began.

And the worst crime being committed was on Halloween when some older boys waited outside a teachers house, waiting for the poor victim to make a trip to his "out house", and turning it over, with the door on the ground, so the teacher was trapped inside.


17 posted on 11/29/2004 7:04:39 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Let's Roll

Actually, I think the 60s saw the rise of radicalism. Liberalism was already the dominant political force, and had been since the 1930s. However, it took a few decades for the liberalism of the government and academia to corrode the popular culture and transform itself into a radical attack on the prevailing American morality.


18 posted on 11/29/2004 7:26:36 AM PST by speedy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor

Children today are having their childhoods stolen. I had an idyllic childhood growing up in NYC in the late 1950s to early 1960s. NY was a great place to be until the late 1960s *wrecked* it. Even in NYC we were free to run around after school; take subways and busses, etc. and that was *before* Giuliani and the "yuppiefication" of the city. Kids now are being raised as house pets of the especially overprotected variety. That's the biggest, and most devastating difference I see.


19 posted on 11/29/2004 7:28:33 AM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicanprofessor

Existentialism and its American cousin, humanistic psychology, replaced Marxism and the Soviet utopia, which even leftist academics couldn't believe in any more. At the risk of being immodest, I suggest you take a look at my book The Road to Malpsychia (Encounter Books), which discusses how this transformation took place.
On a personal note, having started college in 1963, I'd say most of us thought America was a fine place until our professors introduced us to the works of Michael Harrington and C. Wright Mills. Mills, in particular, voices the frustration of academic types that people don't pay them more heed and adopt their clever ideas for reordering society along rational lines.


20 posted on 11/29/2004 7:40:10 AM PST by joylyn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson