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To: Pukin Dog

Ok, well, you uncovered the trap I was laying for you......if it's truly 7:1 then why not limit production to 1/7th? Answer: It's not really better than 7 F-15's.

But, let's uncover some of the BS, (ok, we'll call it "bluster") of your statement - clearly an F/A-22 is not able to deliver 7 times the payload of a Strike Eagle - so maybe that's not the comparison you were making (I know, I'm being deliberately argumentative on this one)- so we'll see what, if anything, comes out to support your assertion - or as you call it fact, or as I call it, "informed opinion - at best".

I agree, the Raptor is damn good. The avionics DO give the pilot unprecedented SA and that IS a significant multiplier, so we're not really in disagreement, but 7x? nah, I'll wait for the data before I'll buy into that one.

The argument is pretty moot though. the Raptor is here, and it is needed. Your point on the Navy is not lost though - the Navy's got squat right now, and they really need the capability inherent in the AF's F22 - you would probably not disagree with that, I'd guess.

A-12-like capabilities would make me a lot more comfortable given looming scenarios in Iran - if the Navy actually knew how to get aircraft without sending Admirals to jail, we'd all be better off. (/gratuitous navy slap)





623 posted on 11/27/2004 3:40:57 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
First, (and I really don't know why I bother) the things that I share on this web site do not require your belief in order to be valid. I do not appreciate your silly attempts to appear knowledgeable by tossing in the Strike Eagle reference when any fool knows it would not apply to any of my points. Your agreement is just not required, I would have slept fine tonight without it. The plain fact, is that only 3 or 4 people on this thread will EVER know just how good the Raptor is, so don't feel bad. You wont be getting the data until the Raptor is long into its operational career. We cant all have a fan club, so just get over it.
625 posted on 11/27/2004 4:15:18 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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