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To: RFEngineer
You have so many fawning fans on here it makes me wanna, well... puke!

LOL! You mean you are not a member of the Pukin Dog Fan Club? Look, it is not opinion. The reason that many of the results of some of the engagement tests are not being published is that they are so good, Congress might decide that fewer Raptors are needed. The SA that the Raptor gives the pilot is so good, so far beyond anything else in the air, that it is not a fair fight, no matter how many aircraft you throw at it. When you combine that with an airframe that can go anywhere you point it, no matter how much available energy, and toss in that little bonus of being INVISIBLE until it is much too late to do anything about it, and you have fighter perfection. The only thing wrong with the Raptor is that under AF pilots, it will never achieve it's true potential.

621 posted on 11/27/2004 3:12:55 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Ok, well, you uncovered the trap I was laying for you......if it's truly 7:1 then why not limit production to 1/7th? Answer: It's not really better than 7 F-15's.

But, let's uncover some of the BS, (ok, we'll call it "bluster") of your statement - clearly an F/A-22 is not able to deliver 7 times the payload of a Strike Eagle - so maybe that's not the comparison you were making (I know, I'm being deliberately argumentative on this one)- so we'll see what, if anything, comes out to support your assertion - or as you call it fact, or as I call it, "informed opinion - at best".

I agree, the Raptor is damn good. The avionics DO give the pilot unprecedented SA and that IS a significant multiplier, so we're not really in disagreement, but 7x? nah, I'll wait for the data before I'll buy into that one.

The argument is pretty moot though. the Raptor is here, and it is needed. Your point on the Navy is not lost though - the Navy's got squat right now, and they really need the capability inherent in the AF's F22 - you would probably not disagree with that, I'd guess.

A-12-like capabilities would make me a lot more comfortable given looming scenarios in Iran - if the Navy actually knew how to get aircraft without sending Admirals to jail, we'd all be better off. (/gratuitous navy slap)





623 posted on 11/27/2004 3:40:57 PM PST by RFEngineer
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