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To: Quix

Quix,
I agree with the other posters who are disagreeing with you. I am an avid aviation enthusiast, and I watch the industry, defense spending bills and such, and I do not think there are mysterious weapons systems out there, for the most part. I do believe they are working on things that most of us do not see or hear about, but I do not think they would hesitate to get them into functioning defense systems as soon as they are viable.


490 posted on 11/26/2004 10:04:50 AM PST by rlmorel
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To: rlmorel

I appreciate your perspective.

I've seen toooooooooooo much stuff and talked to too many people who've seen far more directly to agree with you.

You might do well to get the DVD's that Dr Stephen Greer prepared from amongst the 400 professionals going on record . . . prepared for the Congresscritters.

I'd be very interested if your convictions were as strongly held after viewing the expert testimony on the DVD's.

Lots of things are not as they seem--regardless of the reams of bureaucratic 'evidence.'


491 posted on 11/26/2004 10:11:03 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: rlmorel
Since I actually work at Lockheed on these programs I can assure you that we are meeting production schedules and the weight issues have been resolved. After 35 years in this business the only anti-grav I've seen is on Star Trek. The posters Quix and Haro are the Eschoirs of the future. Every statement they have made so far defies common sense, physics, human nature and a lack of aviation history that is breathtaking. While I acknowledge the existence of black programs at the Skunkworks and the Phantomworks they are not what you would call extraterrestrial. More replies to these nitwits is a waste of bandwidth.
494 posted on 11/26/2004 10:27:22 AM PST by Just_de_facts
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To: rlmorel

We have many little projects but they are kept under the lid because:

Even our allies spy on us; industrial espionage.

Our enemies spy on us.

Some capabilities once known loose much of their effect. The F117 flew long before people knew it existed.

Certain tactics, techniques or procedures can be developed if you know the exact capabilities of the hardware in order to minimize its effectiveness and maximize yours. Exact radar/ECM/ECCM capabilities become sensitive issues real quick.

We keep things under a lid so we don't loose billions through espionage and to keep our bubbas safe. It's not to mislead the public or anything else.

We spend OVER $30,000,000,000 on research, development, test and evaluation annually. Many others would like to gain from our research without paying. It’s really that simple.

Red6


499 posted on 11/26/2004 10:38:51 AM PST by Red6
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