1 posted on
11/25/2004 6:44:38 PM PST by
Haro_546
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2 posted on
11/25/2004 6:45:09 PM PST by
Haro_546
(Christian Zionist)
To: Haro_546
You're wrong.
Did you sign up on 12 Nov just to say that??? If so, you were looking for the DU and made a right turn.
4 posted on
11/25/2004 6:47:15 PM PST by
pfflier
To: Haro_546
each unit cost about $235 million for 239 planes) Whats your opinion?
So if we made 235 million of them they would cost $239.00 ea?
Sounds like a deal to me.
5 posted on
11/25/2004 6:47:40 PM PST by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
To: Haro_546
It's archaic.
We've had UFO platforms for decades that could wholesale outperform it in a list of ways.
Then there are the more advanced smoke screens that can outperform it.
Besides that, there are the drone smoke screens.
Too much boondoggle and pork barrel in it for this taxpayer.
6 posted on
11/25/2004 6:47:51 PM PST by
Quix
(5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
To: Haro_546
9 posted on
11/25/2004 6:49:14 PM PST by
Petronski
(New York London Paris Munich Ev'rybody Talk About Mmm Pop Music)
To: Haro_546
We could get rid of liberal blood suckers like kerry and save much more than that.
To: Haro_546
It's a bad plane for a situation like Iraq. But it's an excellent system for a war defending Taiwan against China, or against N Korea.
To: Haro_546
NO. Air forces around the word are advancing in technology and the F22 assures 'Air Dominance.' You may not be able to see air threats at this time, but history tells us that threats not seen today become visible over the horizon.
To: Haro_546
And your expertise on our future battlespace needs would be?
Anyone can have an opinion, but few have an opinion worth paying attention to...
To: Haro_546
Yes so we can put that money into funding the Banshee!
![](http://www.charmille.com/halotimes/vehicules/images/c_banshee.jpg)
18 posted on
11/25/2004 6:51:42 PM PST by
TheRedSoxWinThePennant
(Remember the Red Sox won the World Series on George Bush's watch!)
To: Haro_546
1) Welcome to FR
2) Use spell check when posting
The ability to achieve air superiority is paramount on the modern battlefield. Any technology that achieves this all important goal is beyond normal valuation metrics.
Just ask the dead terrorists in Fallujah about how important air power is.
19 posted on
11/25/2004 6:51:55 PM PST by
ChadGore
(VISUALIZE 61,103,636 Bush fans.)
To: Haro_546
I like it...
![](https://engineering.purdue.edu/AAE/Careers/Images/f22.gif)
To: Haro_546
First I disagree with your fundamental premise. How can you say they have no place?
1. F15's are getting tired and more expensive to maintain.
1.5. F14's are retired and F18's are NOT air superiority fighters
2. The Russians are developing a very similar aircraft and will sell it to anybody with the cash.
2.5. The Frogs are also working to develop similar technology.
3. It will increase our kill ratio, probably dramatically.
I might agree with you on the total number but the fundamental technology is vital.
22 posted on
11/25/2004 6:52:42 PM PST by
mad_as_he$$
(Off to the store for Marlboro reds and Miller High Life. NSDQ)
To: Haro_546
How about- Read: "foreseeable", "useful", "systems", "costs", and "What's".
As for the gist of your question, I don't know enough to respond...
To: Haro_546
I like the F-22. I think they should develop zeppelins.
25 posted on
11/25/2004 6:53:47 PM PST by
Ptarmigan
(Proud rabbit hater and killer)
To: Haro_546
I'm not sure yet.
I have read some articles (can't remember where) that said in some war-games, the Indian AF held their own against the U.S. and one with China where the results showed that the only aircraft that could both range and evade the Air Defenses was the B-2.
I agree with you in that with the type of combat we are seeing today, and in the foreseeable future (10 years or so), the current aircraft are preforming well, even to the point of no one being able to match us.
Acquisition programs run well beyond 10 years, however, especially for high-tech aircraft.
Just my 2-cents.
26 posted on
11/25/2004 6:53:56 PM PST by
MHak
To: Haro_546
If you (a country) are not moving forward in military technology you are not even standing still. You are falling behind.
When a major war starts it's too late to try to catch-up with somebody else on the technology side of things.
27 posted on
11/25/2004 6:54:17 PM PST by
PeteB570
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28 posted on
11/25/2004 6:54:34 PM PST by
Long Cut
(The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
To: Haro_546
Stop the F22? NO. Air superiority isn't the only reason. American jobs. Advanced aerospace technology development and knowledge. Scientific advancement. Spin offs that enhance the rest of the economy and manufacturing (until it is off shored).
To: Haro_546
This type of aircraft has no place in the modern battlefield and Foreseeable conflicts. The money could be put into more usefull sistems (each unit cost about $235 million for 239 planes) Whats your opinion?
My opinion is that you haven't specified your bonafides to which you make a declarative statement that the aircraft has on place in the modern battlefield and Foreseeable conflicts.
What are the 'more useful sistems' that you think it should be replaced with and why?
32 posted on
11/25/2004 6:56:51 PM PST by
deport
(I've done a lot things.... seen a lot of things..... Most of which I don't remember.)
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