Uncommon Dissent: Intellectuals Who Find Darwinism Unconvincing

The American Prowler ^ | 11/24/04 | Hunter Baker

[neoconsareright]

WACO, Texas -- At one time, the debate over Darwin's theory existed as a cartoon in the modern imagination. Thanks to popular portrayals of the Scopes Trial, secularists regularly reviewed the happy image of Clarence Darrow goading William Jennings Bryan into agreeing to be examined as an expert witness on the Bible and then taking him apart on the stand.

[VadeRetro]

My dratted pigeon just turned into a red x box.

Alternate source for a modern bird skeleton. This one looks like a parrot.

[go_W_go]

Because you've been arguing from ignorance.


So, you can't produce an argument, so, you simply quit arguing.... Seems fitting

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

You think that Homo sapiens are the end of the line? That we are the goal?

Well I do, but then I think we were created by God to rule over the beasts of the field... I don't know why a Darwinist would think we are the end of the line. We should just be a step to the next great, superior living being. There is no goal other than survival.

[go_W_go]

I've figured it out. You deny facts (scientific or otherwise) and you embrace fantasy... I guess I don't quite see the logic in embracing a world view that has no evidence. I've seen a lot of arguing both ways, but the "pro-evolution" side produces no evidence of..... anything.

Science (once again) disagrees with you, if you don't like it, talk to you local scientist... Your argument is not with me, I'm just a lonely ol' researcher....

[VadeRetro]

Great defense, "I'll blindly disagree with the parts the BLOW MY OPINION OUT OF THE WATER..."

You guys screech and jabber at wondrously, miraculously preserved fossils, this kind of thing, refusing to see what's there. That's a dinosaur with almost the same skeleton as your "Bird! Just a bird!" Archaeopteryx. We don't know HOW many other dromaeosaurs might have been similarly feathered; that kind of preservation is too rare to be sure. But how do a bird and a dinosaur get the same skeleton? After all, a bird is a warmblooded thing like the sparrow in your yard and a dinosaur is some big lizardy thing like T-rex. Creation "science" is the science of screaming "Sparrows from T-rex! Hah!"

But let somebody with a pile of crushed bones announce he's got a find that stands it all on its head, THAT's a good fossil! You want to see hypocrisy, try looking in a mirror.

[Murp]

Sharing DNA, means that "all things created," share the same creator.

Excuse me for the redundant question, but "what came first, the chicken or the egg?", or did they "evolve" simultaneously?

[VadeRetro]

I've figured it out. You deny facts (scientific or otherwise) and you embrace fantasy... I guess I don't quite see the logic in embracing a world view that has no evidence.

I just corrected HOW MANY of your misstatements about Archaeopteryx? I can back my version of events up with source after source. I gather you intend to keep trolling for suckers with these same wild lies?

I've given evidence against what you've said. You have no evidence.

[Junior]

Archaeopteryx is not a transitional, why won't you guys get off of it.

Archaeopteryx has many of the features of a therapod dinosaur. The only reason it was even considered a bird is because of the feather impressions. In other words, it shares the traits of both birds and dinosaurs.

[Junior]

Archaeopteryx was finally classified as a MODERN BIRD.

When and by whom?

[A Ruckus of Dogs]

They can explain how a giraffe "evolved" slowly or quickly for that matter, to have such a long neck with the size heart it has that could "evolve" to pump the blood to it's head.

They can explain why the giraffe evolved a long neck, but can't explain why the lion failed to do so.

[VadeRetro]

The finder, Chatterjee, has refused to allow independent examination of his find. This is one fossil bird that so far doesn't fly.

But even Chatterjee's claimed find if accepted would be a very primitive bird, if spectacularly early.

[Wonder Warthog]

"prove it..."

Already did. "Intelligent design" is circular logic and cannot be used as a predictive tool, which is THE key requirement for a successful scientific theory.

[VadeRetro]

Science (once again) disagrees with you, if you don't like it, talk to you local scientist...

As my irony meter blows up!

[go_W_go]

This is what I'm talking about... I'll type a little more slowly, because I don't think you can read very fast.

Archaeopteryx IS just a bird. The scientific community has and still agrees with this statement. The statement you are making goes against the grain, so to speak, of the current consensus. Even evolutionists have stopped whipping that dead horse, so it's quite a surprise to see some still trying to revive it.

What hypocrisy? I don't quite get that one.... I wouldn't call you any names, and don't suppose that since you take a different view than me, that you're any less of a person. I disagree with you based on scientific evidence, you disagree? Show me something, something other than the stuff that's already been disproven, even by members of your own clan. I think what we have here is someone who's total time of research, consists of maybe some internet searches since the time of the start of this posting, I don't think you've done any real research.

Interesting, though, perhaps you'll be inspired to do some real research soon. (fingers are crossed)

[go_W_go]

Already did. "Intelligent design" is circular logic and cannot be used as a predictive tool, which is THE key requirement for a successful scientific theory.

That's what I thought, set up a straw man, and knock it down...

You don't want to prove your point, you just like to be on the opposing side of the argument. I used to be that way too.

[AnnaZ]

We are apes.

Speak for yourself, please.

[Austin Willard Wright]

Socially liberal? Why do assume that? A lot of prudes are on the left.

[go_W_go]

I just corrected HOW MANY of your misstatements about Archaeopteryx?

None.

[Junior]

Archaeopteryx IS just a bird.

With teeth, a tail, a small keel, claws...

[WildTurkey]

For the millionth time then, why are there still apes?

Perhaps if you understood the theory of evolution as has been explained to you a million times you would understand. Nevermind. You have a closed mind and only read the creation sites that present there false arguments againts evolutionary theory.