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Plea from help from Ukraine
Email | 11/23/2004 | Stefan Tanisijczuk

Posted on 11/23/2004 7:08:41 AM PST by Leo Carpathian

Here is an email I received from one of my relatives in Ukraine. Please read.

"After the numerous infringements and violations committed by the Ukrainian state authority during yesterday's presidential election, the revolution in Ukraine is ready to begin. Please help us, the Ukrainians, to guarantee the democracy in our country and the liberated election. Don't sell us to the bandits! President Bush helped Iraq to get rid of the dictatorship. Lend us a hand to prevent it! Stop the new USSR! 50 millions need your help now!

The publicizing of this information and cry for help may save the lives of many innocent patriotic citizens. We believe that the United States of America is the most democratic and authoritative country. We also believe it is ready to help Ukraine keep its independence and stop the autocracy. Please help us save our fatherland! "

Stefan Tanasijczuk

and here is the info about activities in USA:

Dorohi (Dear)! We have SOLID, approved information to pass along.

Tuesday, Nov. 23th, 10am, NYC What: Protest/demonstration at 2 consulates Where: Ukrainian Consulate (240 East 49th Street between 2nd & 3rd Avenues) at 10am followed by a "Putin & Russia Keep Your Hands Off Ukraine Rally" in front of the Russian Mission (136 East 67th Street and/or the Russian Consulate at 9 East 91st Street). Be as orange as you can be, stay as long as you can.

Wednesday, Nov. 24th, 1:30pm – Washington, DC What: protest rally Where: Embassy of Ukraine (3350 M st, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20007 (in Georgetown) then moving to Capitol Hill Car pool, talk to people, charter buses - get there. The permits are obtained; people are already organizing down there.

Several people are leaving either after the protest in nyc in the evening, or early am. for DC, .. like 630 on wednesday morning, leaving any later will be pointless as traffic will be murder. Most of us will then most likely return either on wed night or Thursday morning. If you can give a ride, please volunteer. (contact me at znymka@hotmail.com). There may be buses chartered to go down… that is still in the planning phase.

Make posters, orange is the color, wear it, wave it, post it...


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KEYWORDS: elections; fraud; help; ukraine
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To: Kozak
Ah. Lenin signed away half of Empire (rich fertile part at that) because he was in position of strength? Russian army wasn't in collapse and melting away? Germans took what they WANTED, left leavings for Lenin. Had he not signed Russian troops whould have hanged old Lenin themselves.

You do not know history very well and you show your Galichan pro-German bias.

The chief concern of Lenin was to defeat the real Russian/Ukrainian army - the White Army. And he was a German agent who was paid by the Germans.

101 posted on 11/24/2004 7:04:05 PM PST by A. Pole ("For the love of money is the root of all evil" -- II Timothy 6:10)
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To: eluminate

do you not understand that everyone in the free world has declared these elections fraudulent? that this is not democracy? you are saying that no matte what the outcome, no matter who cheated whom, you would back the election, because a foriegn country says its so?


102 posted on 11/24/2004 11:06:37 PM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: A. Pole

No I wouldn't claim any special benefit. I would expect the fact that Slavery and oppression occured to at least be acknowledged and recognised as fact, and not somehow turned into a boon. Don't tell the descendents of slaves that "hey, they got a free boat trip".


103 posted on 11/25/2004 6:43:24 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: A. Pole
Oh please. The fact that Lenin and the Germans used each other didn't make him a German agent. His primary goal was to survive and establish a Soviet state. To do that he had to A. end the war immediately with Germany and B defeat the Whites. Your simplistic attempt to paint a black and white picture demonstrates your lack of depth and understanding. You also have a regrettable urge to name call. You make assumptions that you have no way to back up.
104 posted on 11/25/2004 6:52:02 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Kozak
The fact that Lenin and the Germans used each other didn't make him a German agent. His primary goal was to survive and establish a Soviet state.

There is no contradiction between the two. Agents can have their own agenda and this agenda does not have to be opposed to their paymasters.

Lenin WAS a German agent. And he DID what Germans wanted him to do. So did the Ukrainian nationalists.

105 posted on 11/25/2004 8:47:36 AM PST by A. Pole ("For the love of money is the root of all evil" -- II Timothy 6:10)
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To: jb6

ahem jb it wasnt just kharkov oblast its the 8 south/east regions that promised to leave if they forcefully make Yuschenko pres. In the end the amount that leaves would probably be between 6 and 10.


106 posted on 11/25/2004 6:05:28 PM PST by eluminate
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To: badbass

Oh, bugger off.


107 posted on 11/25/2004 6:07:07 PM PST by cornelis
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To: Jmouse007

Can't help but think of the Gore crowd crying foul in the 2000 election when I see all of this. The irony...considering their political beliefs.


108 posted on 11/25/2004 7:51:12 PM PST by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Windsong

3% margin is the same as it was here in US


109 posted on 11/25/2004 11:12:45 PM PST by eluminate
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To: eluminate

What's going to be really funny, once the rump Western economically dead Ukraine is free of those "russianized" Orthodox, wait till Poland demands Lvov and surrounding oblasts back.


110 posted on 11/27/2004 12:13:55 AM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: jb6

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40565000/jpg/_40565531_yushchenko_203.jpg

Was election candidate poisoned?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4041321.stm
"The marks on his face could have been caused by stress, that is much more likely."
They also say how it could have been acne condition exploding due to stress.


111 posted on 11/27/2004 12:27:49 PM PST by eluminate
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To: cornelis
Oh, bugger off.

I started to respond by telling you to go f$%k yourself, but maybe I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and ask why you're telling me to "bugger off"?

112 posted on 11/29/2004 7:32:00 AM PST by badbass
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To: Windsong

And I can't help but think of the ballot-stuffing Democrat hacks of Mayor Daley's machine, fighting to keep democracy down in the name of "order."


113 posted on 11/29/2004 7:42:19 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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