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OP-ED COLUMNIST - Shhh, Don't Say 'Poverty' [Bob Herbert Hates America]
New York Times ^ | November 22, 2004 | BOB HERBERT

Posted on 11/22/2004 5:48:16 AM PST by 68skylark

Former Senator Phil Gramm, a Republican from Texas who was known for his orneriness, once said, "We're the only nation in the world where all our poor people are fat."

That particular example of compassionate conservatism came to mind as I looked over a report from the Department of Agriculture showing that more than 12 million American families continue to struggle, and not always successfully, to feed themselves.

The 12 million families represent 11.2 percent of all U.S. households. "At some time during the year," the report said, "these households were uncertain of having, or unable to acquire, enough food for all their members because they had insufficient money or other resources."

Of the 12 million families that worried about putting food on the table, 3.9 million had members who actually went hungry at some point last year. "The other two-thirds ... obtained enough food to avoid hunger using a variety of coping strategies," the report said, "such as eating less varied diets, participating in federal food assistance programs, or getting emergency food from community food pantries or emergency kitchens."

These are dismal statistics for a country as well-to-do as the United States. But we don't hear much about them because hunger is associated with poverty, and poverty is not even close to becoming part of our national conversation. Swift boats, yes. Sex scenes on "Monday Night Football," most definitely. The struggle of millions of Americans to feed themselves? Oh no. Let's not go there.

What does that tell you about American values?

We are surrounded by poor and low-income people. (The definitions can be elastic and easily blurred, but essentially we're talking about individuals and families that don't have enough money to cover the essentials - food, shelter, clothing, transportation and so forth.) Many of them are full-time workers, and some have more than one job.

A new study by the Center for an Urban Future, a nonprofit research group, found that more than 550,000 families in New York - a quarter of all working families in the state - had incomes that were too low to cover their basic needs.

We just had a bitterly contested presidential election, but this very serious problem (it's hardly confined to New York) was not a major part of the debate.

According to the study: "Most low-income working families do not conform to the popular stereotype of the working poor as young, single, fast-food workers: 88 percent of low-income working families include a parent between 25 and 54 years old. Married couples head 53 percent of these families nationwide. Important jobs such as health aide, janitor and child care worker pay a poverty wage."

In its introduction, the study says, "The implied bargain America offers its citizens is supposed to be that anyone who works hard and plays by the rules can support his or her family and move onward and upward."

If that was the bargain, we've broken it again and again. Low-income workers have always been targets for exploitation, and that hasn't changed. The Times's Steven Greenhouse had a troubling front-page article in last Friday's paper about workers at restaurants, supermarkets, call centers and other low-paying establishments who are forced to go off the clock and continue working for periods of time without pay.

The federal government has not raised the minimum wage since 1997, and has made it easier for some employers to deny time-and-a-half pay to employees who work overtime.

Franklin Roosevelt, in his second Inaugural Address, told a rain-soaked crowd, "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little."

I can hear the politicians in today's Washington having a hearty laugh at that sentiment.

There are advocates and even some politicians hard at work addressing the myriad problems faced by beleaguered workers and their families. But they get very little in the way of attention or resources from the most powerful sectors of society. So the health care workers who can't afford health insurance will continue emptying bedpans for a pittance. And the janitors will clean up faithfully after the big shots who ignore them.

These are rough times for the American dream. But times change, and the people who have broken faith with the dream won't be in power forever.


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To: Beelzebubba
New Reality TV series: "Poverty Princes"

Really cool idea. It really matters where you "dump" the person for starters. Playing the game in NYC is a whole other story from playing it in St. Louis.

In real life, though, very few people start out literally with *nothing.* People in high school can start working when they're 16 (if they can stay off drugs, keep their jeans zipped, and get up in the morning.) That gives them two years to save money. Even if they only save $500, that's enough to get them moved in to a cheap and humble living situation.

Besides, people who are truly *that* poor in real life are eligible for a *host* of bennies our kids aren't - like free college, grants, low-cost loans, etc.

But the game does sound like a good idea. Those who spend the least money are going to win - and it takes some skill to know how to do that. What it comes down to is culture. It always does.

61 posted on 11/22/2004 12:28:23 PM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: Beelzebubba
Utter nonsense. $6/hour requires a roommate, not living in a trendy city, buying second hand clothes, and living near the busline.

It can also mean living at home with your parents for a few years while saving money.

It depends on the city, of course. In a medium or low cost of living city like St. Louis, Cleveland, Kansas City, etc. it is eminently do-able.

62 posted on 11/22/2004 12:29:51 PM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: The_Victor
I like the idea of dangerous carnivores in pajamas (well maybe Hobbes wasn't particularly dangerous, but as a tiger...), sound to me like the perfect description of Free Republic.

Remember what Hobbes said to Calvin:
"Don't take it so hard. Humans provide some very important protein."

63 posted on 11/22/2004 4:47:37 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 68skylark
Former Senator Phil Gramm, a Republican from Texas who was known for his orneriness, once said, "We're the only nation in the world where all our poor people are fat."

I recall Dinesh D'Sousa's book "Letters to a Young Republican" where he mentions a very similar statement. D'Sousa attributes it to someone from his country of India remarking to him in a letter why he wanted to come to America; because he always wanted to see fat poor people.

I'd be curious to see which was attributed first.

64 posted on 11/22/2004 5:37:59 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: 68skylark

Poverty statistics are a sham. What qualifies as "poor" in the USA is considered solidly middle class in Europe, and wealthy in many other parts of the world. Nobody starves to death in the USA, except in cases of extreme parental neglect.

On a side note, whose responsibility is it to help the poor? If they truly can't help themselves, private charities are infinitely better equipped to address the problem than the public sector. Certainly the trillions of dollars thrown at the problem by the government have yielded little tangible result. As P.J. O'Rourke might say "It's the wrong tool for the job. You're trying to fix my wristwatch with a ball-pein hammer."


65 posted on 11/23/2004 8:56:26 AM PST by steamboat (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...)
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To: steamboat
I agree with you. If you define "poverty" as the bottom 25% or 33% of the world (or even the bottom 50%), then "poverty" has been wiped out in this country completely. Statements like "the poor will always be with us" are wrong. The cure is liberty, and free markets, and good limited government -- everything liberals hate and want to tear apart.
66 posted on 11/23/2004 3:39:23 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

Exactly - and why thinking people on the left can't see the obvious correlations really frustrates me. If you line up a list that ranks the countries on this planet by their level of economic freedom and lowest tax burdens, there is almost a direct one-to-one correlation with a list that ranks countries by highest standard of living and lowest poverty rates.

Just look at Ireland. Almost immediately after instituting true free market reforms and massive tax relief it has become one of the fastest growing economies in the world, and their poverty rate is dropping exactly as you'd expect.

Or to go even further back, just look at the controlled scienific experiments of East and West Germany, or North and South Korea. What wonders the benevolence of "the state" has wrought...


67 posted on 11/24/2004 7:53:08 AM PST by steamboat (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...)
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To: steamboat
Yeah. And to your list of good examples, we could add the pilgrims of North America. They went from starvation to plenty in just a year or two after adopting sound free-market attitudes.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287451/posts

I don't know why the left hates freedom and prosperity so much. (Well, I got a few hunches.) I'm just thankful that 51% of the voters don't seem to agree with them -- for now.

68 posted on 11/24/2004 8:04:09 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

That really is amazing. I had never heard that version of Pilgrim history. Learn something new every day on Free Republic...


69 posted on 11/24/2004 8:47:31 AM PST by steamboat (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...)
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