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The truth about marijuana.
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Posted on 11/21/2004 9:15:23 PM PST by april15Bendovr

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To: Moonman62
Didn't you read the article? God didn't cultivate the potent stuff available today.

Fair enough.... Using this logic, God did not create any of the drugs we utilize to ease suffering or save lives.....right? Solutions always have a downside. Our delima is how we reduce downside effects and at the same time benefit from the positive effects.

101 posted on 11/22/2004 6:13:24 AM PST by cbkaty
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To: april15Bendovr
I believe it's imperative that our society understand the addictive nature of marijuana and its harmful side effects.

Uh, oh... You're in big Freeper doo-doo now! The most viscous Freepers are the pot smoking ones. Prepare to be ripped a new one!!!

Then pray that the Freeper druggies get past their desperate need for mind altering drugs. Life is good! Don't let it go by while on drugs!!!

102 posted on 11/22/2004 6:17:03 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Uh, oh... You're in big Freeper doo-doo now! The most viscous Freepers are the pot smoking ones. Prepare to be ripped a new one!!!

I just do not understand the hostility associated with the quest for treatment of cancer.....when that treatment includes cannabis. Morphine is OK...right? Legitimate treatment for a disease and abuse must be addressed separately. The fact remains that most drugs used to ease the suffering of a dying patient have the potential of abuse. Can't we separate abuse from legitimate treatment? Why does this raise such strong emotions?

The pothead druggie has no relationship to the patient regurgitating and writhing in pain.

103 posted on 11/22/2004 6:26:00 AM PST by cbkaty
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To: april15Bendovr
If I can educate a few and learn from the posts then I have gained in other ways.
Sorry FRiend, you're not educating, you're indoctrinating.
It assists in dividing, isolating and dumbing down America
All of those things are caused by the side effects of the drug.

All of those things are caused by our current education system. Should we prohibit that TOO?
Marijuana does not discriminate.
Neither does the education system.
Its to bad there is virtually no education to the public on the effects of marijuana while at the same time many wanting to make it legal.
Oh, POPPYCOCK! You've got plenty of resources and you've even cited some of them. MILLIONS of dollars are spent every year in "awareness" programs. Your statement is pure, unaldulterated BS! Well, then again "This is your brain. This is your brain on drugs." wasn't very informative or educational, was it. How many MILLIONS were spent on that ad campaign alone? (strictly rhetorical)

The side many don't want to see is the business end.
ANOTHER BS statement from you! Currently, just like in the days of alcohol prohibition, the criminal element makes money off of illegal drugs. LOTS of money.
To make it legal would mean it would have to have a filter on it with a lower THC content.
I can't believe you're spouting this nonsense. Why buy cheap goods when you can get good goods. Do you buy Lowenbrau or Milwaulkee's Best beer? Marlboros or Main Street cigarettes?
...according to a 1968 study...
O M G! Get up to date, PLEASE!
While your there please learn something please and stop making me do your homework.
You need to do a little homework yourself!

104 posted on 11/22/2004 6:28:38 AM PST by philman_36
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To: april15Bendovr
I am in favor of legalizing pot but only if the people that smoke it will sign a waiver that I wont have to take care of their dumb ass when they fry their synapse and receptors with tax dollars. I already do but not by choice.

Then why not have the same limitations on tobacco and alcohol ore even fatty foods?
105 posted on 11/22/2004 6:34:32 AM PST by newcats
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To: Moonman62
There was an article on here a few months ago about a kid who died from it.

And there was an article here a while back about seeing BigFoot!!
There has never been a documented case of death by marijuana overdose, and I dare you to find one.
106 posted on 11/22/2004 6:53:10 AM PST by newcats
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To: april15Bendovr
according to a 1968 study

Gee...can't find anything more recent than a 36 year old study?
107 posted on 11/22/2004 7:03:46 AM PST by newcats
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To: april15Bendovr
Participants in the video report resorting to acts of desperation, such as scraping bongs and pot pipes and pulling their bedroom dresser out from the wall, to retrieve just enough marijuana to give them their next high. Many of my clients as a psychiatric counselor have recounted the same kinds of behavior.

One sees similarly desperate behavior to get alcohol in environments where that drug is illegal ... in prison, they drink fruit peelings fermented under radiators. It's the illegality, not the drug.

Information in the National Institute on Drug Abuse marijuana fact sheet shows that marijuana-related hospital emergency department visits in the United States recently experienced a 15 percent increase.

"marijuana-related" means they asked the patient if they'd smoked marijuana recently and they said yes. By this standard, 100% of hospital emergency department visits are oxygen-related.

On Nov. 23, 2002, The British Journal of Medicine published a study linking frequent marijuana use at a young age to an increased risk of depression and schizophrenia later in life.

Linkage is not causation; no such study has ever ruled out the plausible alternative explanation that those predisposed to depression and schizophrenia are also predisposed to use drugs (perhaps as attempted self-medication). The number one schizophrenia-linked drug is alcohol.

108 posted on 11/22/2004 10:20:13 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: newcats
Gee...can't find anything more recent than a 36 year old study?

Well, there's always the Schafer Commission report, but it seems that rather conveniently no one can find a copy of that anymore.

109 posted on 11/22/2004 10:26:19 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: cbkaty
just do not understand the hostility associated with the quest for treatment of cancer.....

Oh, this is so, so, silly! I don't understand the hostility towards people who don't want their children enticed into using mind altering drugs for fun and pleasure. These casual drug users are often times so angry and hostile. I do hope that they get the help that they need.....

110 posted on 11/22/2004 10:27:13 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: tacticalogic
Well, there's always the Schafer Commission report, but it seems that rather conveniently no one can find a copy of that anymore.

Lets see...according to Google, that was released in 1972, so I guess 32 years is much more recent.
111 posted on 11/22/2004 10:34:51 AM PST by newcats
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To: newcats

Not much, but more. A more interesting question is why you can't find the report anywhere.


112 posted on 11/22/2004 10:36:44 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Maybe someone realized that it wasn't worth the paper is was printed in?


113 posted on 11/22/2004 10:38:51 AM PST by newcats
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To: newcats
Maybe someone realized that it wasn't worth the paper is was printed in?

That would depend on what you wanted to use it for. Value is a measure of utility.

114 posted on 11/22/2004 10:41:30 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
But B.S will always be B.S.
Such studies have been disproved many many times over.
115 posted on 11/22/2004 10:44:19 AM PST by newcats
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To: newcats
But B.S will always be B.S. Such studies have been disproved many many times over.

You might want to do a little research on the findings of that study before you start making blanket assertions. Hint: it was a government commissioned study, and it's virtually impossible to find a copy.

116 posted on 11/22/2004 10:47:25 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Then pray that the Freeper druggies get past their desperate need for mind altering drugs.

Nice ad hominem. Can you really not understand that there are reasons to oppose the WOD other than "I want to get high"? Are Milton Friedman and William F Buckley just a couple of stoners?

117 posted on 11/22/2004 10:47:35 AM PST by ThinkDifferent (A plan is not a litany of complaints)
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To: april15Bendovr

What's up with this discussion about pot? That's so 70s (and 80s & 90s). The big play now is caffeine addiction: I'm on day 5 going cold turkey and I'm getting the headaches, muscle aches, etc. I swear I'm going on the Mormon diet after this. No more drugs, alcohol (well, maybe a beer), coffee, Coke for me.


118 posted on 11/22/2004 10:49:23 AM PST by lemura
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To: jocon307

ref: your post #3; I agree wholeheartedly. And anything put out by Hazelden must be viewed as them having a vested interest in the "addiction counseling mill/industry" because obviously, dude, they do!
The Capt.


119 posted on 11/22/2004 10:50:07 AM PST by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: GLDNGUN
sounds like you were stoned when writing that response.

just keep touting the WOD talking points...
MJ is plenty available, and the WOD has not really kept it out of the hands of anyone
Atleast with legaization maybe you could get better control and regulate it so it doesn't end up in the hands of minors......
As well tax the heck out of it, !!!!!!!!!!!
120 posted on 11/22/2004 10:59:29 AM PST by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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