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To: little jeremiah
Ok do not start making assumptions, I am not a libertarian. And rude and crude? i guess I would like to see your scale for how you measure that. I just have a fundamental disagreement with having the government start heavily labeling speech. Do not straw man this argument into being about protecting kids, do not change this into personal attacks on anyone.

And don't make hasty assumptions that I am a supporter of porn, I am not, just opposed to the measures some choose to take to stop it. I believe that if a society is consuming alot of porn than it is up to the church to change hearts and minds, your a bunch of Evangelicals aren't you? Well then go evangelize. But don't do it through legislation and restriction. Do it by spreading the gospel.
165 posted on 11/20/2004 9:53:49 PM PST by Ksnavely
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To: Ksnavely

Did I say you were rude and crude? No. I just said I have seen very rude and crude support for porn on other threads.

There are two ways to get people to stop doing things that harm themselves AND others.

1. Punish them, which includes making acts which harm people including OTHERs, illegal.

2. Convince them one way or another that such acts are harmful - by reason and argument, and/or a change of heart.

Pornography up until a generation or so ago was illegal in most states and localities. The ACLU and associated leftists got the SCOTUS to bend to their will, and now porn shops are spread across this great nation like MacDonald's.

You think the men who wrote the Bill of Rights would clap and cheer at the ubiquitous spread of pornography and say, "Yesss! That's JUST what we had in mind when we wrote the Amendments!"

Or do you think they would be horrified to see what sick, miserable crap is foisted on people in the name of free speech?

P.S. You like putting people in boxes, apparently. You put me in a box that doesn't exactly fit.


166 posted on 11/20/2004 10:14:22 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: Ksnavely

Society HAS legislated against porn for a very long time until activist judges decided that "Deep Throat" was free speech. And that is its right to do so before activist judges took that right away.


175 posted on 11/21/2004 7:16:55 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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