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To: Modernman; ThinkDifferent; Bella_Bru

The Party of Churchgoing Americans, which is what the GOP is, has no difficulty understanding that there is nothing conservative in the least about libertarian ACLU-style moral anarchism. Conservative means a committment to protecting civilized values, not the libertarian, Hollywood, ACLU values of endless, no-consequence cultural experimentation.

Just as war is too important to be left to generals, values are too important to be left to corporate mass marketers. The corporate mass marketer has no use for civilized values. He does not want moral character, deferred gratification, hard work, and concern for others. He wants laziness, narcissm, selfishness and cowardice. He wants a nation of permanent adolescents who see the world as one big high school where they have to have the "right" clothes or the "right" sneakers or the "right" whatever to belong to the cools. He wants shallow, rootless people who follow the crowd. Haven't we become a nation where adolescence begins at 8 and ends at 40 ? The Christian revival we as a nation are experiencing is a fight against this.</P>


121 posted on 11/18/2004 1:50:56 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham
The corporate mass marketer has no use for civilized values. He does not want moral character, deferred gratification, hard work, and concern for others. He wants laziness, narcissm, selfishness and cowardice.

Sheesh, when I want to read inane anti-business screeds I can go to Slashdot. The "corporate mass-marketer" wants exactly one thing: profit. If he's producing sex and violence, it's because we're buying it. Be honest; your problem isn't with Hollywood, it's with your fellow Americans who like things that you don't.

127 posted on 11/18/2004 2:02:21 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (A plan is not a litany of complaints)
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To: Sam the Sham
Conservative means a committment to protecting civilized values, not the libertarian, Hollywood, ACLU values of endless, no-consequence cultural experimentation.

Those civilized values include a strong desire among true conservatives (rather than RINOs who worship the state) to be left alone by the government to the greatest extent possible. You want the state to poke its head into your life and protect you and your kids from naked women and violent videogames. The state can do that, but once you give it the power to ban some things people read, watch and play you'll soon find that the state will go much further and try to control EVERYTHING you read, watch and play.

You want the GOP to turn into a right-wing version of the Dems.- using the government to control people's lives.

Just as war is too important to be left to generals, values are too important to be left to corporate mass marketers.

And your solution is to leave values to the GOVERNMENT? You might as well let NAMBLA babysit your kids.

133 posted on 11/18/2004 2:09:52 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Sam the Sham

The GOP isn't JUST the party of Churchgoing Americans. The other two planks of the GOP are fiscal conservatism, and small government/ Constitutional Constructionalism. And the problem is censorship runs 100% contrary to that 3rd plank.

No war is too important to be left up to the politicians. When we don't leave war up to the generals we wind up with Viet Nam, 11 year half-assed involvement in a war that the otherside says we could have won in under 2 months at any point during the war. The decision to go to war is political, once you're in it the decisions belong to the generals, they're the ones who know how to win wars. Show me a politician that knows how to win war and I'll show you a politician who once was a general or at the very least respects them.


135 posted on 11/18/2004 2:11:20 PM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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