Posted on 11/16/2004 8:19:52 PM PST by Former Military Chick
WASHINGTON, Nov. 16 - Fresh from election gains, House Republicans moved Tuesday to consider a change in party rules that would prevent their majority leader, Tom DeLay, from having to step down from his leadership position should he be indicted in an investigation in Texas.
As House and Senate members returned to finish remaining business for this year and organize for 2005, an aide to Representative Henry Bonilla, Republican of Texas, said Mr. Bonilla had filed a proposal to overturn a Republican rule that requires a member of the leadership to step down temporarily if facing a felony indictment.
Party lawmakers could take up the proposal on Wednesday.
Republicans adopted the rule in the 1990's, when they were in the minority and were trying to put the focus on investigations of prominent Democrats. They say a rule change is justified because the investigation involving Mr. DeLay, who was re-elected majority leader on Tuesday, is politically inspired.
The Republicans say they want to eliminate the chance for a prosecutor to be able to force Mr. DeLay from his post by obtaining an indictment.
"Congressman Bonilla's rule change is designed to prevent political manipulation of the legislative process," Taryn Fritz Walpole, a spokeswoman for the lawmaker, said.
Ms. Walpole said she did not have the specifics of the plan.
Mr. DeLay's office said he was not taking a stand on the initiative, which his fellow Republicans discussed in a party conference. "The majority leader believes members of the conference should come to their own conclusions on this issue and that the conference should work its will without his exerting undue influence one way or the other," his communications director, Stuart Roy, said.
House Democrats said the potential change reflected the opposition's view on ethical behavior.
"If Republicans believe that an indicted member should be allowed to hold a top leadership position in the House of Representatives, their arrogance is astonishing," the House minority leader, Nancy Pelosi of California, said in a statement.
Mr. DeLay received back-to-back admonishments by the House Ethics Committee in the weeks before the election, angering some House allies who said the findings were political even though the panel was bipartisan. As the architect of disputed redistricting in Texas that toppled five Democratic incumbents, Mr. DeLay was instrumental in House Republicans' gaining a handful of seats on Nov. 2.
The investigation in Austin has resulted in the indictments of three allies of Mr. DeLay and several companies accused of illegally using corporate campaign contributions to help Republicans win state legislative seats, a move that cleared the way for redistricting.
As House Republicans dealt with that question, Senate Democrats officially chose new leadership to steer them through the more heavily Republican Congress.
And a veteran Senate Republican battled to save his chairmanship in a first test of new conservative power.
As a small group of anti-abortion demonstrators prayed and protested outside the Dirksen Senate Office building, the longtime senator, Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, met privately with his colleagues trying to persuade them to allow him to become chairman of the Judiciary Committee.
After one meeting, the current chairman, Senator Orrin G. Hatch of Utah, a supporter of Mr. Specter, said: "Senator Specter handled himself very well. I expect him to be the next chairman. I think it will be resolved satisfactorily."
Mr. Hatch cannot keep his chairmanship because Senate Republicans have put term limits on the position.
Mr. Specter suggested that he would address a meeting of all Republican senators on Wednesday.
"I never count any chickens before they hatch," he told reporters.
Mr. Specter, who was re-elected on Nov. 2, has been under fire because of his statement at a news conference after the election that judicial nominees who opposed legal abortions would have trouble winning Senate confirmation.
One Republican on the Judiciary Committee who has a special grievance against Mr. Specter, Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama, said he had not made up his mind whether to back the Pennsylvanian. In 1985, Mr. Sessions was nominated to a federal judgeship by President Ronald Reagan, and Mr. Specter opposed the nomination.
Leaders of conservative groups who have been clamoring for the Senate leadership to block Mr. Specter said they would continue their campaign against him until the formal selection of the chairman in January. They added that their differences with Mr. Specter extended well beyond abortion to opposition to same-sex marriage and changes in the legal system, school vouchers and tax cuts.
"Why would we want someone on board who does not share the president's judicial philosophy or his own party's?" asked Patrick Mahoney, the director of the Christian Defense Coalition and a protest organizer.
As that drama was playing out, Senate Democrats also met in private and officially selected Harry Reid of Nevada as their leader, replacing Tom Daschle after he lost his quest for re-election.
At a news conference, Mr. Reid joined his new leadership colleagues, Richard J. Durbin of Illinois as whip and Debbie Stabenow of Michigan as caucus secretary, and said he was willing to work with Republicans and their enlarged majority. but would not shy from confrontation.
Ronnie Earle is the rabidly-partisan RAT prosecutor. Any indictments should be totally ignored and even ridiculed. We must do whatever it takes to support DeLay, who is solely responsible for our House gains this year.
We all know the democrats would definitely change the rule without any concern, but I equate the dnc, maybe, one step about the devil. But if the republicans do the same, it makes them just as bad, just as worthless, just as untrustworthy.
The Republicans created this rule properly and if they attempt to change it now, it simply shows them all to be no different than the clintons, kerrys or kennedys, deserving of full impeachment.
Automatically bouncing someone over an inditement is unwise. It should be done on a case by case basis.
If he is guilty they should cut him loose. This will become a big scandal, you KNOW the media will make it. They will destroy this party if it starts protecting people who are guilty.
The Republicans WROTE the rule - they will follow the rule.
Trumped up charge or not - the democrats would have been forced to follow it so should all.
I believe it is a good rule because it keeps unscupulous characters (most of them) from profiting from high positions of power and keep them from protecting themselves from justice for crimes.
They are not kicked out, but they should be upon a conviction.
You think Congress should automatically bounce somebody from a position because of an indictment, even if it is perceived as done by a rogue partisan prosecutor? I don't like automatic rules like that. A charge is but a charge. It should be handled on a case by case basis.
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Tom Tancredo 2004 = HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER.
Democrats bringing up trumped up BS charges shouldn't be astonishing nancy, but THAT still manages to astonish me.
The neocommie, pinko ultra-liberal, radical progressive, crapweasel dem scumbags HATE DeLay! Pelosi is very vocal about DeLay and the "illegal" redistricting of Texas. Pelosi, the worst possible leader the dems could have (from their perspective) is so vicious that her words demonstrate that any bipartisanship in the 109th Congress will be impossible. She must step down and let a rational dem (and, there are some), seek to find common ground with DeLay and the other American heros! Of course, if she insists on being leader, she will have fewer and fewer people to lead as she continues to drive her party deeper into the sewer!
Pelosi, there she goes again. Insulting those Americans who recently elected DeLay back into office. Now, exactly WHO is the arrogant, unwarranted self-important peacock, Nancy???? Errrrr, the Texas voters knew about this "charge." Get over yourself, Pelosi. (Wake up and smell the South Dakota coffee.)
I see a Pardon under Tom DeLay's Christmas tree this year.
"'If Republicans believe that an indicted member should be allowed to hold a top leadership position in the House of Representatives, their arrogance is astonishing,' the House minority leader, Nancy Pelosi of California, said in a statement."
And if abortion-loving Democrats believe that they should not be in JAIL for continuing to vote for the killing of babies, their arrogance is beyond astonishing.
If its Travis County DA Ronnie Earle, strip of his leverage. Of course being a Democrat and it being Tavis County, you can bet your patootie its politically motivated.
Demorats don't have such a rule. The Republicans giveth they can taketh.
Our side created the rule and should abide by it. It was adopted when the RATS had actual criminals in their leadership. We know this particular indictment -- if it even happens -- will be a partisan sham, but it has to be fought under the rule of law. I am disappointed; I think the House GOP is acting like typical politicians in this case. It's the kind of beltway behavior that lets the Senate decide against impeaching Clinton even though the case was there beyond a shadow of a doubt. There would be no practical harm in Delay setting aside the title temporarily -- he could still call the shots, as he did before he had the actual title. I doubt there will even be an indictment.
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