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To: Fatalis

I've looked at Tancredo's plan...it calls for illegal aliens to go home willingly so that they may apply for re-entry.

That's silly, the only determent that he's got is to boot them out of the country for not leaving willingly...which is the same exact risk they face if they do not leave at all!

Everyone is stuck on the notion that the everyone who is here illegally needs to be expatriated as a result of that fact, and that going home is the only acceptable punishment for people who entered the country illegally. That would take years and more effort that we're willing to invest as a nation.

Register them, fine them, and process the ones who are already here and be done with this idiotic argument.


252 posted on 11/17/2004 11:57:38 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I know that's your postition, but let's take a reasonable hypothetical:

The President's immigration reform proposal stalls because of the clause that would legalize illegal aliens. However, his immigration proposal could pass if instead his guest worker program adopted Tancredo's approach.

Would you oppose such a compromise?

254 posted on 11/17/2004 12:04:19 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Luis Gonzalez
That's silly, the only determent that he's got is to boot them out of the country for not leaving willingly...which is the same exact risk they face if they do not leave at all!

Wrong, they also face the risk, which doesn't exist now, of someone who is enrolled in the guest worker program taking their job. As it stands now, the people who could take their jobs are other illegals who are in the same boat.

268 posted on 11/17/2004 2:30:02 PM PST by Pa' fuera
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Register them, fine them, and process the ones who are already here and be done with this idiotic argument.

Processing them is another can of worms. How can President Bush justify processing these illegal workers ahead of relatives of permanent residents and citizens who have been waiting for their papers for years in their home countries? If it isn't fair to jump those who would apply from their home countries ahead of those already in line, it is even less just to let the illegals apply and stay.

275 posted on 11/17/2004 2:34:11 PM PST by Pa' fuera
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