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US MARINE EXECUTES SHOT MAN
The Sunday Mirror (UK) ^ | Nov 14 2004 | Paul Gilfeather, Political Editor

Posted on 11/14/2004 6:29:14 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry

A US marine has sparked world-wide revulsion after being seen shooting an injured and helpless Iraqi.

The sickening scene was broadcast by Channel 4 News after a fire-fight in the rebel stronghold of Fallujah.

The trigger-happy soldier had been asked to get nearer to the injured man.

But instead of trying to capture him, the marine is seen leaning over a wall and cold-bloodedly shooting him.

He then turns to his colleagues and says: "He's gone". Coalition chiefs were last night under pressure to investigate the incident


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bombsondead; bombsoninjured; boobytrappeddead; boobytrappedinjured; europoofterreporter; fallujah; fallujahmarine; iraq; misleadingpress; warishell
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To: BladeLWS
I'm not gonna take this for truth until I get something from US press, if that. I don't trust ANYTHING from the UK media these days...

Say what??? Our media is only slightly more trustworthy than foreign press. Trust our soldiers until their is irrefutable evidence against them.

361 posted on 11/14/2004 9:16:06 PM PST by jamaly
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To: Phisher
Here is my transcript of the video which Yahoo! dates 11/10/04:
US soldier being interviewed: "We thought everything was clear. We had guys up on the roof and we went over there to go get them; pull them back with the squad. Another guy popped out and tried to shoot me, threw a frag[mentation grenade] at me. I ran away from the frag, [something, something] dead body - one of theirs, not ours. Made it back here, trying to get the guy out and take care of business."

[announcer]"The insurgent's fire is neutralized and they [US forces] continue with their house to house activity" while the scene shows the soldier leaning into a window [yes it was a wall, but not a freestanding wall but rather the wall of a building], he fires a shot and says "he's gone".

362 posted on 11/14/2004 9:16:08 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("We are in the process of allowing them to self-actualise" LtC. Rainey, Fallujah, 11/04)
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To: Nexus6
The Marine clearly says "he's done", not "he's gone", no matter what was printed. Having said that, I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with a soldier dispatching an "wounded insurgent" (if in fact that is what happened here). As has been pointed out already, you don't leave it to chance in that scenario, you KILL the enemy.

I'm still not getting the war-crime aspect of this. To me, a war crime would be marching captives (wounded or not) out to a field to be shot. Finishing off a wounded enemy in the middle of a battle isn't comparable.

If this is the best the dickless Left can come up with to criticize our Fallujah victory, then we're in good shape.

363 posted on 11/14/2004 9:16:44 PM PST by mikegi
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

According to the Geneva Convention, this guy was an insurectionist, and should be shot on sight. The city was evactuated of civilians, this guy was a un-uniformed combatant.

Besides, these explosives wearing pukes are not exactly unarmed when there is no gun in their hands.


364 posted on 11/14/2004 9:17:57 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Trippin
Well, it's clear to me he says "he's gone". Whatever.... Well, you might want to think about trading in that Commodore 64 for something with better sound.
365 posted on 11/14/2004 9:19:07 PM PST by Nexus6
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To: Petronski
What is the incidence of 'feigned injury' among Iraqis?

Don't know about Iraq, but it is a common tactic over here with the Jihadi to feign injury and blow up the police that come to help. One girl took out a few border police and a medic in the exit from Gaza a few months ago.

I am sure our guys are trained about those incidents in Israel.

366 posted on 11/14/2004 9:20:31 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Nexus6

Thanks bud, my setups just fine. You may want to think about taking your hearing aid in for adjustments. Besides I'm not the only one who hears it that way. Anyway, I'm losing interest. Later.


367 posted on 11/14/2004 9:21:25 PM PST by Trippin
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To: TexKat
I cannot get the video to work. Is that picture of people in the US?

Yes, here in the US. Right click on it and "save as". You will need a player for a .mov file. Apple's Quicktime is what I use.

368 posted on 11/14/2004 9:21:26 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
Was the guy in a uniform ? I will be my annual payckec that he had no identifying isignia marking him as the enemy.

Summary execution for partisans is normal. This is no big deal and I will take the Marine's life over some scumbag terrorist any day.

369 posted on 11/14/2004 9:22:24 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
I DON'T EXPECT "THE WORLD" TO UNDERSTAND

BUT THIS AMERICAN UNDERSTANDS

WE ARE NOT FIGHTING HUMAN BEINGS

WE ARE FIGHTING SAVAGES WHO BEHEAD HELPLESS ELDERLY WOMEN

WE ARE FIGHTING ZOMBIES WHO ARE ENSLAVED BY A CULT OF DEATH

THERE IS NO MERCY TO BE SHOWN

THERE ARE NO MORAL QUALMS TO WRESTLE WITH

THERE IS ONLY ONE TASK...KILL THEM ALL AND GET HOME SAFE

370 posted on 11/14/2004 9:25:19 PM PST by montag813
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

F the Mirror.


371 posted on 11/14/2004 9:27:24 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: FarRightTexasDude
"IN FALLUJAH, THE ONLY GOOD IRAQI IS A DEAD IRAQI."

This is ignorant and false. Fallujah has thousands upon thousands of good Iraqis in it right now—not only innocent civilians, but also brave members of Iraq's newly-formed army, fighting to free their country from the often foreign-born terrorists. This is not a war against Iraqis, this is a war for Iraqis. Stupid statements like yours play right into the hands of the anti-American media.

372 posted on 11/14/2004 9:27:35 PM PST by Fabozz
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To: mikegi

Precisely. There is no "war crime" here no matter how skewed one's interpretation of this video might be. The savage he shot at was probably already dead anyway, seems to me like he was firing an 'insurance' round.


373 posted on 11/14/2004 9:27:53 PM PST by Nexus6
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To: oceanview

"US forces shot many Germans as they surrendered" .........

& Germans shot many GI's that surrendered

I agree w/you about shooting terorists even if they're giving up. IMHO we should kill all terrorists on contact!


374 posted on 11/14/2004 9:28:29 PM PST by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (Take no prisoners-kill all terrorists!)
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To: American in Israel

He's gone, he's done.

375 posted on 11/14/2004 9:29:31 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry; Squantos; Travis McGee

rut row.

screw those bastards......what do they expect in house to house black flag conditions?

dang...I wish I had never mentioned it a few days ago now.


376 posted on 11/14/2004 9:30:06 PM PST by wardaddy (my noble timcat is in rabies jail doing a 10 day bit.....thanks to animal control facists.)
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To: TexKat

I believe he says "he's done"....not "he's gone" after the shot over the wall.

I bet (or would say)...the guy raised his AK to take a shot at him.


377 posted on 11/14/2004 9:32:38 PM PST by wardaddy (my noble timcat is in rabies jail doing a 10 day bit.....thanks to animal control facists.)
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To: saquin

They point out there is a down Iraqi between the buildings before the Marine shoots over the wall. That same ragger had been sniping at them before he got tagged off the roof.

Funny....this was on ABC days ago and not a peep....my brother saw it and told me to have a looksee.


378 posted on 11/14/2004 9:35:11 PM PST by wardaddy (my noble timcat is in rabies jail doing a 10 day bit.....thanks to animal control facists.)
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Marines let loose on streets of Fallujah

“Everything to the west is weapons-free,” radioed Staff Sgt. Sam Mortimer of Seattle, Wash., which means the Marines can shoot whatever they see — it’s all considered hostile.

379 posted on 11/14/2004 9:37:27 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: montag813; Squantos; Travis McGee

Don't forget...the Religion of Pieces also takes grade schools hostage and cuts the throats or bayonets 6 year olds for begging for water or whimpering for their mommies.

These dogs deserve a hard death...that mean greenie did the moonrockscum a favor....he shoulda climbed over that wall and sawed his head off with his swiss army knife .


380 posted on 11/14/2004 9:38:53 PM PST by wardaddy (my noble timcat is in rabies jail doing a 10 day bit.....thanks to animal control facists.)
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