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Who Were the Greatest Military Commanders (Of All Time) ?
Posted on 11/14/2004 5:23:06 PM PST by Cyropaedia
In light of the upcoming film Alexander (the Great), who in your opinion were actually the greatest military commanders our world has known...?
Mine are Genghis Khan, Alexander, and U.S. Grant.
TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: milhist; militarycommanders; militaryhistory
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To: Cyropaedia
Judging from the MSM--Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean.
641
posted on
12/22/2005 11:40:50 AM PST
by
Busywhiskers
("...moral principle, the sine qua non of an orderly society." --Judge Edith H. Jones)
To: Cyropaedia
642
posted on
12/22/2005 11:40:53 AM PST
by
PISANO
(We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
To: Blood of Tyrants
Winning with what you have is the name of the game in war and Grant did that.The allies won through uninterrupted supply lines and industrial capacity (think US)in WWII but a win is a win.
643
posted on
12/22/2005 11:45:54 AM PST
by
luvbach1
(Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
To: luvbach1
"The war is over and the South will not rise again."
I gather you have never spent any time in the South.
644
posted on
12/22/2005 11:47:24 AM PST
by
indcons
(FReepmail indcons to join the MilHist ping list)
To: HockeyPop
645
posted on
12/22/2005 11:48:33 AM PST
by
luvbach1
(Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
To: ATOMIC_PUNK
646
posted on
12/22/2005 11:49:17 AM PST
by
luvbach1
(Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
To: Cyropaedia
US Grant was not a "great military commander"; he simply had more cannon fodder than the opposing army - he never "out general-ed" anyone.
I'll put my money on R.E. Lee. Had Lee decided to fight for the Union, the "civil war" would have been over in about four months - at far less cost.
647
posted on
12/22/2005 11:49:48 AM PST
by
Logic n' Reason
(Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
To: Williams
You're right. Grant believed that winnning meant crushing the enemy. Still the best strategy.
648
posted on
12/22/2005 11:51:57 AM PST
by
luvbach1
(Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
To: 0siris
Belisarius, Scipio Africanus
+1 on that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belisarius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scipio_Africanus
649
posted on
12/22/2005 11:54:19 AM PST
by
CLRGuy
(If crypto is security, then trees are houses.)
To: clee1
Can't fault Franks for applying overwhelming force. It was a strategy that won handily and spared his troops. A good parlay. And remember, critics at the time said we did not have enough troops and materiel for the task. Of course, not referring to the aftermath in Iraq.
650
posted on
12/22/2005 11:59:00 AM PST
by
luvbach1
(Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
To: Strategerist
MacArthur attacked the Bonus marchers apparently against Presidential orders.He was a colonel at that time, not a general.
651
posted on
12/22/2005 12:00:42 PM PST
by
luvbach1
(Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
To: indcons
To: JustAnotherOkie
>>>,i>How about 'John Kerry', 'Saddam Hussein', 'Wesley Clark', and Montgomery<<<
Great examples!...of military men that were adept at accumulating masses of self-congratulatory credit for virtually no accomplishment.
To: Cyropaedia
Gen. George Washington & Gen. Patton
654
posted on
12/22/2005 12:06:49 PM PST
by
KenmcG414
(wHAT'ST)
To: Cyropaedia
Grant, far an above the greatest American miliatry commander of all time.
655
posted on
12/22/2005 12:07:36 PM PST
by
Casloy
To: TADSLOS
John Kerry was in Vietnam?
Why didn't he mention it in the campaign?
To: HardStarboard
'Saddam Hussein'I enjoyed General Swartzkopff's analysis of his military prowress at the final briefing.
To: Cyropaedia
658
posted on
12/22/2005 12:14:52 PM PST
by
Ramcat
(Thank You American Veterans)
To: Tallguy
There was a lot of animosity toward the war in the North, they generally saw the South as backwards and not worth fighting. Plus, they really wanted interruption of cotton and agriculture products to end (we tend to forget that the effects of the blockade were felt on both sides). Lee's attempts to engage the Union in the North made many of the "fence sitters" pro-war.
I really think if Lee had done as Washington did in the Revolution, he would have been successful -- that was to make the enemy come to you, get victories where you could, but mainly avoid humiliating defeat. Had this happened, the Northerners would have eventually tired of the costs both in terms of loss of life and economically, the desire to become trading partners with the South would have been too great.
659
posted on
12/22/2005 12:15:00 PM PST
by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: Cyropaedia
I haven't read through all the replies but most seem to mention land Generals. What about naval commanders? For those commanders of the seas, I nominate Nimitz and Arleigh Burke.
660
posted on
12/22/2005 12:16:18 PM PST
by
7thson
(I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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