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Bush Faces Early Test on Immigration Policy
Reuters via The New York Times ^ | November 14, 2004 | Reuters

Posted on 11/14/2004 12:26:55 PM PST by primeval patriot

The New York Times


November 14, 2004

Bush Faces Early Test on Immigration Policy

By REUTERS

Filed at 10:28 a.m. ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush faces an early test on immigration policy this week as Congress considers legislation denounced by Latino groups as anti-Hispanic and anti-immigrant.

Several provisions that would affect the lives of immigrants and asylum seekers found their way into a bill passed by the House of Representatives to reform the nation's intelligence services.

The bill stems directly from recommendations by the bipartisan commission which investigated the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington. The Senate version of the bill does not contain these immigration clauses.

House and Senate conferees will try once again to reconcile their differing bills when Congress reconvenes for a lame duck session this week. The White House is on record as strongly opposing some of the House provisions but it remains to be seen whether Bush is willing to expend any political capital by putting pressure on Republican legislators to drop them.

``The House Republicans think they have a strong hand on this and seem ready to go to the mat. They seem to want to paint immigrants as the bad guys in the war on terror,'' said Angela Kelley of the National Immigration Forum, a pro-immigration group.

Opponents of the House bill say it would make it more difficult for refugees to obtain political asylum in the United States by raising the standards of proof required. It would also make it easier for the authorities to deport non-citizens, including legal residents.

``The bill is the biggest assault we have ever seen on political asylum. If passed, it would make it incredibly difficult for anyone to be granted asylum in this country,'' said Erin Corcoran of Human Rights First.

The bill also seeks to prevent illegal immigrants from obtaining drivers' licenses and would withdraw recognition of ID cards issued by Latin American embassies that many immigrants carry that now allow them to open bank accounts, obtain drivers licenses and even board aircraft.

Mexico has issued over 2 million of the cards, known as the ``matricula consular'' to its nationals, whether they are in the United States legally or illegally, and several other Latin American countries also issue ID cards.

LATINOS DENOUNCE BILL

Four major Latino organizations issued a joint statement last month denouncing the provisions as ``anti-Latino and anti-immigrant.''

``These provisions will have a profound, negative impact on Latinos and other immigrants communities. They will not make us safer and, in fact, may make us less safe by driving a wedge between American communities and law enforcement,'' they said.

Wisconsin Republican Rep. James Sensenbrenner, a leading advocate of the bill, said all its provisions stemmed directly from the report of the 9/11 Commission.

``The legislation enhances security around our borders, and reduces opportunities for terrorists to enter and stay in the United States,'' he said. ``Every provision in this bill that is within the Judiciary Committee's jurisdiction, is tied directly to a specific recommendation made by the 9/11 Commission.''

Dan Stein of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which favors reducing immigration, said the provisions would close loopholes in the nation's defenses by making it easier to identify, track and deport illegal immigrants.

But the 9/11 Commission itself said the immigration clauses were not part of its report.

``We believe strongly that this bill is not the right occasion for tackling controversial immigration and law enforcement issues that go well beyond the Commission's recommendations,'' Commission chair Thomas Kean and vice chair Lee Hamilton said in a letter last month.

Bush won 44 percent of the fast-growing Hispanic vote in the Nov. 2 presidential election, up from 35 percent in 2000 according to exit polls. His administration has said it wants to make immigration reform a major focus of his second term.

However, there is a strong element in the Republican Party that opposes any concessions to illegal immigrants and would like to see restrictions placed on legal immigration as well.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush43; bushamnesty; homelandsecurity; immigrantlist; immigrationplan
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To: 26lemoncharlie
What you refer to and I agreed with the use of the Word NUT, is a Metphore for Patriotic Zealot!!

Yes, a nut.


As in Patrick Henery's "I know not what course other's may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death"!

OK, I'll bite: what nutty thing are you suggesting you'd do while quoting Patrick Henry?

81 posted on 11/14/2004 5:27:34 PM PST by Fatalis (John Kyl in 2008)
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To: risk

Pro America is now considered radicalism


82 posted on 11/14/2004 5:28:52 PM PST by PersonalLiberties (An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought. -Simon Cameron, political boss)
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To: primeval patriot

God save us from this leftist swill.


83 posted on 11/14/2004 5:30:56 PM PST by junta
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To: primeval patriot
"Opponents of the House bill say it would make it more difficult for refugees to obtain political asylum in the United States by raising the standards of proof required. It would also make it easier for the authorities to deport non-citizens, including legal residents."

No reason except I wanted to see it in print another time....

"The legislation enhances security around our borders, and reduces opportunities for terrorists to enter and stay in the United States...every provision in this bill that is within the Judiciary Committee's jurisdiction, is tied directly to a specific recommendation made by the 9/11 Commission."

Same,
I'd go on and on, but for the sake of brevity.......

84 posted on 11/14/2004 5:32:27 PM PST by norton
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To: IStillBelieve

Satellites & drones do this already. If were a matter of just having patrols, then why did Israel build a 32 ft high concrete barrier?


85 posted on 11/14/2004 5:32:34 PM PST by JonDavid
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To: Fatalis

Relax !! Our enemies are safe for now! I'm in chains !!


86 posted on 11/14/2004 5:34:40 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: IStillBelieve
Given that the Federal government employs 3 million people, requiring only 32,850 to secure the Mexican border is insignificant.

The logistics of securing the border are not the issue.

LOL! You're at over 30,000 personnel in forward deployment, with 1 mile gaps between men. You think that will be sufficient?

You've also left out support crews, bases, detention facilities, roads, infrastructure, etc. Realistically you're looking at a few hundred thousand men to seal just the Mexican border. You are talking about tens of billions of dollars annually. Not going to happen, and it doesn't need to. Consider an asymmetric approach.

87 posted on 11/14/2004 5:35:17 PM PST by Fatalis (John Kyl in 2008)
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To: JonDavid

1. Many of our borders are self-sealed. The desert handles most of the southern border, the ice the northern. We just neeed to fill in the blanks

2. The idea is when they get here, THAT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO AND NOWHERE TO WORK. Throw some businessmen in jail, fine others, into bankruptcy if necessary.

3. Regular sweeps, like we used to do in the 70s. Those who are using someone else's identity go to jail for 3-5, the rest go home.


88 posted on 11/14/2004 5:35:36 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Democrat credo: If we win, we win: if we lose it is theft!)
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To: janetgreen

A local businessman who has, as far as he can determine , legals told me the other night that one of his employees told him he had better learn Spanish.

His reply was if the rest of the crew doesn't learn English by next Spring, they are gone.


89 posted on 11/14/2004 5:37:04 PM PST by B4Ranch (The lack of alcohol in my coffee is forcing me to see reality!)
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To: viaveritasvita

What about this law that automatically lets a person become a citizen when they marry a US citizen.....I see wo many guys down here in florida who marry much younger non-US girls.....


90 posted on 11/14/2004 5:37:30 PM PST by zoobee
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To: primeval patriot

There was an article in today's Houston Chronicle that mentioned congressman-elect Ted Poe. He wants to see something done about the illegals and is against Bush's amnesty/guest worker plan. Thank God another voice of reason and sanity has been added to Congress.


91 posted on 11/14/2004 5:39:31 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: Budweiser
The Mexican border is 1,960 miles long. It may be a hassle to secure it, but it has to be done. So does the Canadian border, actually, but the Canadians aren't barking demands and encouraging their hordes to invade this country like the Mexican government is.

bump

92 posted on 11/14/2004 5:42:00 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: freedumb2003

During WWII, the German Panzer armies surprised the French & English armies by going through the Arden. The Arden was thought at the time, by contemporary military planners (except the Germans) to be impenetrable.


93 posted on 11/14/2004 5:43:14 PM PST by JonDavid
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To: Fatalis

LOL!


94 posted on 11/14/2004 5:43:45 PM PST by IStillBelieve (G.W. Bush '04: Biggest popular-vote victory in history, and first popular-vote majority in 16 years!)
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To: dougherty

If that were true, then why did Texas vote for Bush.


95 posted on 11/14/2004 5:46:18 PM PST by JonDavid
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To: JonDavid

Feel free to point out our vulnerable flank on the Mexican border.

Canada and the coasts do not count.


96 posted on 11/14/2004 5:52:37 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: B4Ranch
His reply was if the rest of the crew doesn't learn English by next Spring, they are gone.

LOL! Tell him I want to buy him a beer...

97 posted on 11/14/2004 5:53:15 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: primeval patriot

Are you serious?


98 posted on 11/14/2004 6:03:11 PM PST by JonDavid
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To: JonDavid

I am very worried about the mexican tanks that will roll over the border. (*rolls eyes*)

Actually, point 2 and 3 are the important ones. We don't have to make it impossible, just difficult. I have a car security system. It doesn't keep my car from being stolen, 100%. It just increases the "risk" part of the "risk/reward" calclation.


99 posted on 11/14/2004 6:08:37 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Democrat credo: If we win, we win: if we lose it is theft!)
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To: freedumb2003

Unfortunately, about half of the illegals are coming through the Arizona desert. The only thing the desert accomplishes is to slow them down and make logistics for the smugglers a little tougher.

The Border Patrol caught over 235,000 in the last 12 months just here in Cochise County, Arizona. The agents estimate they only caught 20% of those crossing.


100 posted on 11/14/2004 6:27:16 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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