[Spiff]

At a minimum, when people are put into ovens or beaten to death, you SEE the results of your actions, you HEAR the screams of the innocent and the suffering. That is what makes it that much more evil. It's fine to have your beliefs, but try to be friggin objective about it. Shooting kids in the face and raping women and slitting their throats takes a far greater evil than aborting an embryo.

So, because you can't see it or hear their screams, the innocent children (NOT EMBRYOS) aren't worthy of protection? Their murders don't count because it was done so quietly in a sterile environment. Their pain doesn't matter because you didn't hear them screaming. You called pro-lifers "nutjobs". I think that you have just taken ownership of that epithet.

[Skywalk]

I used embryo because there is a moment in time where that's what the life is.

You may find it offensive, but there are a lot of people who are your allies to an extent, but don't view the earliest stages the way you do. And it will always be.

I'd rather work with you to put more limits on abortion, but for you, there are no acceptable limits. As soon as the sperm hits the ovum, you've decided that's when it equals a human life worthy of all protections. It's kind of insulting to me that an egg that was just fertilized=my mother in terms of its value. Just odd, really. I can get with you later in the pregnancy, but not that early, and that's why I used that specific term.