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To: Spiff

I used embryo because there is a moment in time where that's what the life is.

You may find it offensive, but there are a lot of people who are your allies to an extent, but don't view the earliest stages the way you do. And it will always be.

I'd rather work with you to put more limits on abortion, but for you, there are no acceptable limits. As soon as the sperm hits the ovum, you've decided that's when it equals a human life worthy of all protections. It's kind of insulting to me that an egg that was just fertilized=my mother in terms of its value. Just odd, really. I can get with you later in the pregnancy, but not that early, and that's why I used that specific term.


79 posted on 11/13/2004 7:36:13 AM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Skywalk

"It's kind of insulting to me that an egg that was just fertilized=my mother in terms of its value."

Your mother WAS an egg that was just fertilized. If her mother had decided that she had limited value at that stage, then not only would she not exist, but neither would you, nor your children and their children.

The only difference between that "fertilized egg" and the poor little girl in #73 is a short period of time - 24 weeks.


97 posted on 11/13/2004 7:45:17 AM PST by Tantumergo
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To: Skywalk
I used embryo because there is a moment in time where that's what the life is.

At one moment in time you were an infant, incapable of supporting or feeding yourself. You were reliant upon the protection and nurturing of someone else. Just an infant. Was it OK to kill you then? Why is it OK to kill a "fetus" or even an "embryo"? One day you will be an "invalid" or "terminal" or some other dehumanizing name for an elderly person incapable of supporting or possibly even feeding yourself. You may be reliant upon the protection and nurturing of someone else. Would it be OK to kill you then?

An embryo, a fetus, an infant, a toddler, a child - all are just titles for stages of human development. If you kill the human at infant stage, there is no more human - she is dead. If you kill him as a fetus, no human is born - he is dead. If you kill an embryo, you've still killed a human being - she will not progress to become a fetus, and infant, a child, an adult. You've denied her a chance to live and grow.

If you extract DNA from an embryo and analyze it does it appear to be monkey or cow DNA? No, it is human DNA. The embryo is a human being. At a very, very early stage in the development of that human being - well before most abortions are performed - the heart starts to beat and the brain starts to function. The exchange of oxygenated blood and nutrients takes place (albeit through the umbilical cord). He or she even moves independently. These are the very definitions of life and we've determined that the life is human. You can't deny that aborting a child is the taking of a human life no matter what de-humanizing euphemisms and rationalizations you attempt to use.

123 posted on 11/13/2004 7:55:50 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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