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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elections; gop; prolife
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To: ApesForEvolution
Heck, I'm toned down so as to not inadvertently offend anyone! ;0

Right. And I lost 20 pounds today.

861 posted on 11/13/2004 9:19:31 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin

Keyes was a loose cannon who sounded off ad nauseum with proposals considered crackpot in most conservative circles. Reparations? A draft when we don't need one?


862 posted on 11/13/2004 9:20:28 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Hildy

Can't read things that might upset their agenda cart, friend.


863 posted on 11/13/2004 9:20:30 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: CWOJackson

That's not even the point, read Howlin's #854 post to me. She says it best.


864 posted on 11/13/2004 9:20:35 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: pharmamom

The abolition of slavery is an example of the changes that will have to be made in this country in regards to the right to life of the unborn. The anti-slavery side accepted the Mason-Dixon line increment, elected Lincoln, and in the end, the slavers had to give up their "property" because of an Executive Order and then a Constitutional Amendment.

I hope that law and not war will prevail in this case.


865 posted on 11/13/2004 9:21:15 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Howlin

"Anybody with a brain knew that narses meant that my sister just should have died."

Really? But then since you claim that it was NOT fetal stem cell research, and since you've seen my answer, how can you lie like that?


866 posted on 11/13/2004 9:21:38 PM PST by narses (The fight to protect the unborn is THE civil rights battle of the 21st century. + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: Howlin

So where does that put you? :)

You've been "fighting the 'right wing Christian Jesus Freak culture of life and compassion' or whatever we are for '5 years'?!" ??

LOLOL!!

We've been here getting it done for the GOP for a LONG, LONG time, inspite of all the Country Club Blue Blood Infanticide Culture Rockefeller LOSING ELECTIONS Republicans for DECADES!!!

Sheesh...


867 posted on 11/13/2004 9:23:34 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: narses

Roe v. Wade will never be overturned in this Country and it is not the most important issue for the majority of party members. And that's just the way it is.


868 posted on 11/13/2004 9:23:48 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: Hildy

Thanks.


869 posted on 11/13/2004 9:24:03 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: narses

You know, I've gone back and re-read all your post to everybody on this thread and I've decided that you're just not the kind of person I even care to ARGUE with.

You're certainly not worth the effort and you're just too judgmental to even bother with.

As simply as I can put it, I don't like people like you. And I am thankful that the majority of the people in MY party aren't like you.


870 posted on 11/13/2004 9:24:09 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: sitetest; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ..

If the Republicans won't deliver on overturning Roe now, then we have been duped.
If the Republicans won't deliver on overturning Roe now, then we have been duped.
If the Republicans won't deliver on overturning Roe now, then we have been duped.
If the Republicans won't deliver on overturning Roe now, then we have been duped.
If the Republicans won't deliver on overturning Roe now, then we have been duped.


Darn, sorry for the 'dupe'.


871 posted on 11/13/2004 9:24:57 PM PST by narses (The fight to protect the unborn is THE civil rights battle of the 21st century. + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: The Red Zone

But Keyes is THE consummate conservative, so we've been told for the last five years.

And if he could just get on the ticket......well, you know...


872 posted on 11/13/2004 9:25:39 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: narses

How come nobody can show me one documented time George W. Bush said he would work towards overturning Roe V. Wade.


873 posted on 11/13/2004 9:26:36 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: Howlin

He was as much in outer space as "conservative," so citing Keyes is to punch a strawman.


874 posted on 11/13/2004 9:27:56 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Hildy
These people truly think they are the ones responsible for W's return and they must be rewarded.

As usual, you come down on the liberal side.

'These people' are the majority in the GOP, whether you are aware of it or not, or whether you like it or not, Hildy.

And your confusion is obvious, when you think that pro-lifers desire to return to a culture of life is some kind of 'reward' to pro-lifers.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

875 posted on 11/13/2004 9:28:21 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Howlin

So rather than admit your lies and insults are in error, you simply say "go away". Sorry, if you post lies, I'll point them out. If you defend killing babies (even to extend other lives) I'll point out the blood running down your arms into your keyboard. As for your faction in the GOP, well, you earn your rewards as you call Catholic thinking "reprehensible", you reap what you sow when you call allies "nutjobs" and when you sip from the cup filled with the blood of innocent children, you earn eternal hellfire.


876 posted on 11/13/2004 9:28:34 PM PST by narses (The fight to protect the unborn is THE civil rights battle of the 21st century. + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: ApesForEvolution
We've been here getting it done for the GOP for a LONG, LONG time, inspite of all the Country Club Blue Blood Infanticide Culture Rockefeller LOSING ELECTIONS Republicans for DECADES!!!

FGS, you're not even old enough to know HOW "we got it done" in the GOP.

And I might remind you of this: as much as you SNEER at us "Country Club Republicans" you "real, true conservatives" haven't fielded a candidate who can actually put you in power yet; so, in a sense, it is YOU who need US. We've got the money AND the votes, kiddo.

877 posted on 11/13/2004 9:28:39 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: The Red Zone

It's not a strawman around here; around here he's THE conservative statesman.


878 posted on 11/13/2004 9:29:58 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I was waiting to hear from you. You can say this all you want, but you just can't prove it. In fact, all the proof is against you, but you're so obsessed to the point of neurosis. I'd seek help if I were you.


879 posted on 11/13/2004 9:30:01 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: Hildy

Nobody expects to topple Roe all in one fell swoop. It would begin with recognition of the rights of the clearly viable unborn. Hey it can't make any LESS sense than "animal rights," and anyone who did to a dog or cat what they do to the live unborn would be seeing serious slammer time.


880 posted on 11/13/2004 9:31:04 PM PST by The Red Zone
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