Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org
PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.
We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.
To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.
And the overriding issue is abortion.
So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.
And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.
If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.
This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.
This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.
This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.
Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.
That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.
Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.
The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.
I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.
Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.
That's all it will take to get good judges on the bench.
I see the living constitutionalists are all over this thread telling pro-life voters not to leave the Republican Party.
Ironically, what is going to actually happen is that the Republican Party will leave the living constitutionalists.
BTW, I believe that taking the conscious, pointed and purposeful step of murdering an innocent child is the extreme...lol
Any medical treatment offered me or my family that has a prerequisite that a baby be slaughtered is no choice at all, none. That a civil society offers such choices is sick beyond words.
Nice strawman...where do you people come up with this cr@p?
Dear narses,
"Any medical treatment offered me or my family that has a prerequisite that a baby be slaughtered is no choice at all, none. That a civil society offers such choices is sick beyond words."
Oh, c'mon, what's a little cannibalism between friends? ;-)
sitetest
Certainly I for one don't want this, but go where is the question? The other alternative is worse isn't it? If this thread is any indication of the divisiveness of this subject, then imagine how Congress will handle it.
No, sadly this isn't a 'straw man', these are real choices offered by our sick society. Baby parts are sold daily from the abortion chop shops to the medical establishment. The Doctors Menegele are out there promising a "better life" through butchered baby parts. My answer is clear - NO.
BTW, I am not an organ donor nor would I seek or accept a donated organ unless I was certain that the donor wasn't killed to obtain such an organ (as is often the practice).
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As an attempted argument used to promote the American culture of death, yes, it is indeed a strawman...and the replies you and others give bare that out.
I have *REAMS* of documentation about the 'baby-body-parts-market', the baby-stem-cell-junk-science, donor-deathbed nightmares and on and on btw..
Bttt!!!
"civil society depends upon the constituents thereof deciding upon rules and regulations, aka laws, by which they will abide."
That's the whole point. Most of society at this point in time feels that women ought to be able to have abortions.
Without a significant majority this will remain to be the case. Murder is illegal because 99.99% of society agrees it should. Abortion is much more divisive issue that has if you are lucky a 50/50 split (this can be argued). And I can find almost no one who wants crazy punitive legal punishments for women who have abortions (legal or otherwise). And the percentage who share AFE's views are almost negligable.
Speaking of strawmen....
You make it sound as if a child would be sacrificed on an altar.
IIRC, fetal stem cells would have to be obtained before the fertilized egg divided enough to be recognizable as human - IOW, your argument is somewhat like saying an egg and a chicken are the same thing...
Secondly, the embryoes were deprived of life long ago. I'm not saying that was right, and I'm not saying any more embryoes should be killed, but should that sacrifice be totally in vain, or should some good come of it?
The children are sacrificed on the altar of convenience.
How do you pro-aborters live with yourselves at night, when it's quiet and you're alone with your thoughts and your conscience??
"One is never "free" to violate the natural law"
Perhaps free is the incorrect word to use.
Does one have a choice to violate natural law?
That would be a more accurate wording of what I meant to say.
Dear Clorinox,
Most people think that abortion should be legal in a few circumstances.
However, polls consistently show that 65% - 70% of Americans believe that abortion should be restricted to cases of rape, incest, and the life (not health) of the mother.
As these represent about 96% of all abortions, that means that a large majority of Americans believe that abortion should be illegal in about 96% of current cases.
Although I'd go further, I'd be delighted to make illegal 96% of all abortions currently performed.
sitetest
"Again, thank you for being who you are..."
No problem. Glad I could be of assistance.
All I did was state a fact. I did not argue the legitamacy of abortion in my last post simply stated what everyone knows, until you get a significant portion of society to believe as you do abortion will remain legal.
Now if you want to argue about God's will on earth and its application through government lets duke it out.
I've never aborted a child, or had a part in aborting a child, and my conscience certainly doesn't bother me on that count. How about yours?
I'm not going to say I've never done anything wrong....
"polls consistently show that 65% - 70% of Americans believe that abortion should be restricted to cases of rape, incest, and the life (not health) of the mother."
Please cite me a referance to one of these polls.
I am quite interested.
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