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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elections; gop; prolife
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To: Howlin

Tell me about this man-date of yours! And how does he smell in the morning?!

And when you say 'idiot', is that an acronym for Intelligent, Dashing, Impervious, Obstinent, Teddybear?

Stop flirting with me... ;0


541 posted on 11/13/2004 11:49:28 AM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: Hildy

First, for the record, I know for a fact that I don't know everything. Probably less than 1 percent of everything.

Second, I worked my a$$ off for Bush both times and the GOP in my state and I have a right to hold them to the Pro-Life Pro-Family planks of the platform.

Don't you get it Hildy! The GOP is a Pro-Life Pro-Family Party; read the Convention book. I'm holding them accountable.

It is you're side in the minority. You should join with your NARAL sisters and form the abortion party.

Life begins at conception. Abortion is Murder. But God loves and forgives all who are sorry. God is the LORD of Life--NOT death.


542 posted on 11/13/2004 11:49:31 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Judgmental!


543 posted on 11/13/2004 11:49:57 AM PST by Clorinox
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To: cpforlife.org
So we should have sat on our hands after specter made his comments last week?

No, but your headiness is beginning a backlash.

Threatening Senators like Santorum and Cornyn are, frankly, hacking off some of us who dislike strong-arm tactics.

Make your point, but your "or else" is childish, IMO.

544 posted on 11/13/2004 11:50:30 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: tpaine

That's what I thought...pro-aborters have NOTHING but bad law and contorted arguments, at best.

Defending the indefensible must pay you well, because it requires a near, if not total, moral bankruptcy gone to seed...


545 posted on 11/13/2004 11:51:29 AM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: sinkspur

No one seems to have a problem when God commits an abortion (otherwise known as a miscarriage)!


546 posted on 11/13/2004 11:51:33 AM PST by Clorinox
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To: pharmamom
Hey Sinkspur! Glad to see you join the fray! Prepare to be frayed!

Bush wins the election, and the far-right-fringies think they're going to start calling the shots.

This "do this or we won't vote" stuff is juvenile.

547 posted on 11/13/2004 11:52:29 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: AndyJackson

Fine, andy, whatever you say.


548 posted on 11/13/2004 11:54:49 AM PST by AlbionGirl (+Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccata mundi.+)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Pro-abort

It is wonderous to behold such articulateness on the part of someone who apes modern science. It isn't even grammatical.

549 posted on 11/13/2004 11:55:08 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
Sir, I beg your pardon. I did not mean to say that libertarians believe that. *I* believe that. I even point out in my post that I am *not* a libertarian.

What I posted was simply my thought process as to how *I* justified killing.

I assume this is that part you had a problem with:

The death penalty works far better than other punishments in my humble opinion. ... minimization of the oppression of personal rights by the government for the protection of life (a personal right) from other individuals. That's my opinion anyway. Which incidentally should make it ideal from a libertarian viewpoint.

Please note,
Incidentally: Apart from the main subject; parenthetically.

What I was trying to say is, this is what I believe, these are my reasons. Perhaps they would also appeal to you as a libertarian. Not this is what you believe as a libertarian.

I believe your problem with my post was one of semantics, and I apologize for not being more clear. That being said, what are you saying differently from me? I believe the punishment should not be for vengeance, you seem to believe the same thing.

I believe in the death penalty not because of vengeance but because it is a deterrent. If the death penalty was worse as a deterrent I would be against it. I do not think that the death penalty should be because of vengeance.

-paridel
550 posted on 11/13/2004 11:56:17 AM PST by Paridel
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To: ApesForEvolution
pro-aborters have NOTHING but bad law

They also have grammar which you do not.

551 posted on 11/13/2004 11:56:17 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Clorinox

Ooooohhhhhh!!!!!!

You in big trouble now!


552 posted on 11/13/2004 11:56:32 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Clorinox

Life is full of judgements!

I had to judge whether or not you were worth posting to, for instance. A mother judges whether her child will be welcomed or slaughtered in a way more cowardly than the head-cutters warring against us.

It's right and wrong that people can't accept - for their own selfish, ignorant, misguided reasons. Usually darkness and/or ignorance...


553 posted on 11/13/2004 11:56:36 AM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: cpforlife.org

When were you elected spokesperson for the GOP and the pro-life movement?


554 posted on 11/13/2004 11:58:09 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: kjvail
BTW, if I recall correctly the Episcopalian church was the first major denomination to come out in favor of artificial birth control in the 1930s.

And your point would be???? BTW, I don't agree with much that the Episcopal Church has to say these days.

I did my Roman studies in divinity school, thanks very much, and obviously didn't convert. I am afraid I'm pretty Protestant, TYVM.

More to the point, perhaps 80% of your cohorts should read JPII's writing, since they're all busy practicing birth control. The Irish have it down to an art form.

555 posted on 11/13/2004 11:58:18 AM PST by pharmamom (Visualize Four More Years)
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To: AndyJackson

LOL!


556 posted on 11/13/2004 11:58:56 AM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: cpforlife.org

CHRISTINATY'S UNIQUE CAPACITY
TO DESTROY THE CULTURE OF DEATH


If you meant to say "Christianity" in that sentence, then you have a spelling error on your site and may want to correct it since you are trying to expand your supporters (spelling counts).

You blame Catholics for abortion being legal, then blahblah about drawing more "Christins" in...? Sheesh. You won't do it like that.


557 posted on 11/13/2004 11:59:43 AM PST by unsycophant
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To: AndyJackson
ROFLOL!!

Baby-butchers never cease to amaze me....
558 posted on 11/13/2004 12:00:27 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: Luis Gonzalez

I know I love seeing people with their panties in a bunch.
If God is all powerful, everything that happens is according to his will. If God were against abortions there wouldnt be any. Only man tries to claim whats in gods mind. All aborted babies go straight to God for redistribution. In heaven everything is fine!


559 posted on 11/13/2004 12:00:39 PM PST by Clorinox
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To: sinkspur

Faux-power.


560 posted on 11/13/2004 12:00:59 PM PST by unsycophant
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