Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org
PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.
We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.
To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.
And the overriding issue is abortion.
So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.
And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.
If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.
This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.
This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.
This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.
Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.
That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.
Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.
The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.
I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.
Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.
To people who are pro-life and pro-death penalty....I am just curious, I voted for Bush, yet I find myself more libertarian in views....What is the difference between killing a baby and killing somone on death row? I KNOW that a person on death row murdered and is a horrible person, but isn't killing that person a bit hypocritical? I'm just curious to get some viewpoints, not trying to debate, or offend people. Thanks.
I understand fully what you're saying, I chose to enter the political arena because of our death culture in America, a long time ago. I've seen it all and I've seen nothing yet...
"I didn't lie about you; you are totally trashing the GOP by demanding that they listen to YOU and YOU alone."
No I did not. But if I had been "demanding that they listen to ME and ME alone", how is that TRASHING anyone????
"You are quite simply disgusting."
There - calling me 'disgusting' for my religous views, THAT is trashing someone. Calling the views of the Catholic community "reprehensible", THAT is trashing an entire religion. Get it?
BTW, if you KEEP telling lies about me and trashing me, I will hit the abuse button, so take heed. Be polite or else.
Do you agree with the Constitutional Amendment move (or jive) stipulating marriage between one (1) man and one (1) woman?
If you can't figure that one out on your own, then maybe don't ask the question in public...?
While we are not busy promoting legislation to protect unborn persons in law, we will continue to support the thousands of crisis pregnancy centers and pregnancy aid centers that, at very great cost, provide real, on-the-ground alternatives for women in crisis pregnancies. We will continue to hold our spaghetti dinners (our Knights of Columbus Ladies Auxiliary raised a thousand dollars for our local Gabriel Project last week with a spaghetti dinners), we will continue to collect change and pass out lifesavers, we will continue our vehicle donation programs, we will continue to do all that we can, at considerable financial cost, to give real assistance to women so that they have real alternatives to procuring the death of their babies.
I dont' think that it can be argued that the availibilty for abortion didn't immediately increase it's demand.
When I was in 6th grade an eight grader became pregnant and saw her pregnancy through at a Catholic girl's home in Buffalo, NY. The year was 1967. Don't know if she gave birth to a boy or a girl, but she gave the child up for adoption. She went on to marry a fine man, have more children and live a generally happy life. In my mind, and in the mind of many of us small-towners, she was a hero because she extended her own right to life to her child.
Arguing that making abortion illegal would drive women back to the coat-hanger days is not a very effective one. You can always choose life, and in the US there is all manner of assistance open to you. Adherence to God's law on life, and courage are the only things the distressed girl needs to see herself through the hardship. The Church will help her any way she can.
Chill out, guys, this is a sensitive topic that trips people to the trigger. narses, Howlin is one of the founding Freepers and I've found him to be cogent and sensible over several years of reading his posts. Don't take this personally.
What we're talking about on this thread is ending the American culture of death - and erasing Constitutionally-repugnant decisions such as R v W.
Dear tpaine,
"How dense can you get kid? -- States that decree early term abortion to be murder violate due process for the women so accused."
Making abortion illegal does not violate due process.
Punishing those who violate the law without permitting a fair trail would violate due process.
If, for instance, a law were passed prescribing the death penalty for the abortionist, and some intermediate penalty for those who procured the abortion, it would be a violation of due process to hang the abortionist before his trial and sentencing, and it would be a violation of due process to mete out punishment to others before theirs.
But once found guilty at trial, sentenced, and all appeals exhausted, there would be no violation of due process to execute the aggressor.
sitetest
Howlin, I knew it! :)
SW - get a clue.
Moral Theology 101:
The commandment is "thou shalt not murder" not thou shalt not kill. The killing of an innocent is always and everywhere an inherently evil act, it can never be justified.
In the case of the death penalty you are not dealing with innoncence.The moral reasoning for the Death penalty is a) punatative and b)preventative. It would be a violation of justice and charity for societies to fail to protect their weakest members. Therefore the death penalty is allowed. John Paul II has argued that in modern society there are better ways of dealing with violent predators - incarceration. That is a debatable opinion, not an infallible teaching of the Magesterium.
The day the conservative party does not value the life of children is the day I leave the party. I am one issue on that. Take it or leave it.
You're correct, imo.
Well said!
Knew what?
"I am a Pro-Life Christian man who wants things done right, However, I do understand that there is no such thing as instant gratification in politics"
As a Christian, do you support the Death Penalty, which in turn still kills someone? Just curious.
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