Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org
PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.
We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.
To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.
And the overriding issue is abortion.
So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.
And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.
If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.
This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.
This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.
This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.
Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.
That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.
Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.
The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.
I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.
Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.
Be careful what you wish for. If the DLC goes Pro-Life, many Catholic voters will walk out on the anti-Catholic bigots in the GOP. We still remember James Blaine and the horrid bigotry of that era. The FDR/JFK/LBJ socialists are dying off. The Dem's have to change. If they can get their act together, the GOP could lose and big. The reality is either the GOP and GW will keep their word or they won't. If they lied to us, they lose us. It isn't a tough process, keep your word, keep your base.
Well, it wasn't this jerkoff. If you want to avoid this sort of ugliness in the future, maybe bookmarking posts with one-word cheap shots (seemingly) directed at other posters is a practice you should abandon. Unless you enjoy this.
Get a grip on your emotions. .
This isn't "ugliness", its just everyday FR.
If you can't stand the backroom heat feel free to leave.
"Giggle"
The sounds of laughter fading out in the distance as the theme song from "Shaft" is playing.
Sorry, but I could not resist.
How is a GOP shaft, like the vocal few here seem to argue for, any better?
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Wait, you screamed bloody murder when I asked if you, like T. Paine, were an atheist. Who are you to lecture about 'heat'?
Boy, don't I wish! They're be a lot more bandwidth around here.
The RNC does not belong to the Anti-abortion faction, and does not pander to it.
They try to enact the desires and wishes of Christians and Jews everywhere, but do not pander to them.
You can't use the party platform as a promise either. That has been tried dozens of times before. It never works and the platform document is just a opportunity to set direction, not policy promises.
Nobody lied, but if you want to think that go ahead. But, you will not find many to agree with you.
If the GOP fails to keep it's word on abortion, it will be a minority party again. For many of us, the major difference between the parties has been LIFE and related moral issues. Betray us and we will bolt. No stock dividen exclusion, no tax break comes close to LIFE as an issue. Either accept that or test it. But let me assure you, you 'test it' at the peril of governance. So, if the rest of the GOP platform is important to you, make certain you do not embrace the betrayal of that which is important to so many like me.
"Nobody in the RNC or anywhere in the party, that I am aware of, is anti-Catholic ..."
LOL, have you forgotten Bob Jones University? You are as ignorant of this issue as you are of so many others.
Do you know who James Blaine was?
For the record, I didn't report the comment either and in fact saw it in my comments but when reading the thread saw it had been pulled.
"Nobody lied, but if you want to think that go ahead. But, you will not find many to agree with you."
Some here have advocated they betray us. Others want us out. Here is the President:
McCAIN [to Bush]: Do you believe in the exemption, in the case of abortion, for rape, incest, and life of the mother?
BUSH: Yeah, I do.
McCain: [But you] support the pro-life plank [in the Republican Party platform]?
BUSH: I do.
McCAIN: So, in other words, your position is that you believe there’s an exemption for rape, incest and the life of the mother, but you want the platform that you’re supposed to be leading to have no exemption. Help me out there, will you?
BUSH: I will. The platform doesn’t talk about what specifically should be in the constitutional amendment. The platform speaks about a constitutional amendment. It doesn’t refer to how that constitutional amendment ought to be defined.
McCAIN: If you read the platform, it has no exceptions.
BUSH: John, I think we need to keep the platform the way it is. This is a pro-life party.
McCAIN: Then you are contradicting your platform.
Source: GOP Debate on the Larry King Show Feb 15, 2000
That was a "read my lips" moment. He earned my support then. If he wants to keep it, he needs to act as he has said he will. So must Senator Frist. It isn't subject to debate, either they meant it, or they didn't. If they did, and they act, they keep my vote. Lie, and they lose. Why is that hard for you to grasp?
Yes they have a pro-life segment, largely due to the need to get votes in the South.
But if they cut loose the portion of the base that is adamantly pro-choice, they would only have a 20% solid base to start the election off with, as opposed to 30%+. And, in the election, they would lose 30+percent of the remaining women's vote they now covet very closely.
It would be sudden death for them.
That may be. The choice is simple, either remain and act as a pro-life party, or not. If not, forget the Hispanic vote, forget the Catholic vote and assume that the evangelical vote will return to not voting. Gamble, if you want. But remember, you have to get your views accepted by the people, especially folks like me at the local, state and national conventions. Trust me, it won't be easy.
But if abortion staying unrestricted is the strategy you want to embrace, even at the risk of both secular power and your eternal soul -- you have free will,go for it. Just be prepared to pay the price.
Maybe, or maybe not. Your analytical skills haven't impressed me yet. If the DLC/DNC chooses to embrace the VALUES of the immigrant and Catholic vote in a meaningful way, they could lose the 2% of queers (who really have no where else to go) and regain their national party status.
But then as long as the GOP keeps the promise made by the President (BUSH: John, I think we need to keep the platform the way it is. This is a pro-life party.) and the Party Platform, it needn't worry, right?
Oops, sorry, you want the President to waffle on that, right?
You are quoting old stuff from the 2000 primary.
Not very up to date, are we?
I guess you should have supported some other candidate.
But there were none who you could trust. Kerry was not the ticket. So who?
My question is, how does one guarantee that RvW will be overturned? I don't believe either side will approve USSC judges who proclaim that they will impose either pro-life or pro-abortion views on the courts. We certainly all can agree (I hope!) that we expect President Bush to nominate, and Congress to approve (assuming they can get the Dem support necessary) conservative judges who are strict constructionists.
However, the USSC is not subject to political pressure, and so can't actually be forced to do anything.
What more do you expect the President to do?
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