Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org
PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.
We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.
To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.
And the overriding issue is abortion.
So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.
And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.
If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.
This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.
This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.
This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.
Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.
That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.
Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.
The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.
I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.
Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.
I will fight judicial activism from any corner of the spectrum.
I will fight it hard.
"Actually, my welcome here probably isn't in doubt. "
I never said otherwise, I was suggesting a reason for your obvious paranoia.
Senator Frist said this morning that Specter had not yet made his case that he should chair Judiciary.
Our Senate caucus is feeling the heat.
Time to ratchet that heat up even higher.
"I will fight judicial activism from any corner of the spectrum."
The REVERSAL of Judicial Activism is what we want. Your SUPPORT for the JUDICIAL ACTIVISM that created the 'right' to KILL is telling. You may claim to "fight judicial activism" but that claim rings hollow when you SUPPORT that very activism, especially when 4,000 children will die DAILY on the Altar of that awful ACTIVISM.
Nagasaki and Hiroshima happened after Japan had already effectively lost the war. Attacks against ships at sea or stricly military targets would have had the same impact.
Of course.
Overturning Roe v. Wade is politically unpopular. I've never seen a survey that didn't show 62-65 percent support for the "rights" secured by that court decision.
You cannot force a emotionally-laden issue like overturning Roe v. Wade, which has 32% popular support, through a 51% governing majority. It's that simple. The GOP would go back to being a minority party, and every conservative initiative across the spectrum would be thwarted.
This is just typical bully-boy overreaching by a politically unsuccessful element within the GOP who see the world through a straw. We need to change hearts and minds before we can realistically change the law. Incrementally.
Overturning Roe v. Wade is politically unpopular. I've never seen a survey that didn't show 62-65 percent support for the "rights" secured by that court decision.
You cannot force a emotionally-laden issue like overturning Roe v. Wade, which has 32% popular support, through a 51% governing majority. It's that simple. The GOP would go back to being a minority party, and every conservative initiative across the spectrum would be thwarted.
This is just typical bully-boy overreaching by a politically unsuccessful element within the GOP who see the world through a straw. We need to change hearts and minds before we can realistically change the law. Incrementally.
You have now completely lost your mind.
I sincerely hope that you and people of your emotional knee-jerk nature are marginalized and vacated from any influence in the Republican party.
Anyone with a ounce of sanity would not behave in this fashion.
It is counter productive, and anal.
LOL - still mad about that? Mehuhuhuhuh!!!!!
Kind of like being upset when you come onto a thread like this blowing smoke and don't understand when people don't react as if you are the greatest thing since sliced bread. Maybe you should take a look at your presentation.
Yes, I agree completely.
I note that, rather than answer me, you descended into name calling.
Can you answer the question? It is really simple, and very rational given your support for the Impeached former President's views on abortion.
Did you support the Impeachment of the former President or did you feel he was treated unfairly?
I'm not familiar with Doe/Bolton, but I tend to think that Roe/Wade should be overturned.
I think one problem is that judges who profess an opinion either way are quite unlikely to be confirmed - and I'm not sure we want judges on either side who let their personal opinions, rather than the language of the Constitution, decide cases.
That leads to the final problem - how can we be sure? At the time he was confirmed, everyone assumed Souter to be much more conservative than he's turned out to be.
If the deceived citizens of New England and the Pacific coast are stupid enough to elect liberals of either party, then we will crush them politically in Washington, D.C.
Fox News Opinion Dynamics Poll; PRO-LIFE 47% - PRO-CHOICE 44%" (April, 2004)
Generally speaking, people who consider themselves "Pro Life" don't support the "rights" secured by Roe v. Wade.
I don't know, nor do I agree with your analysis. I do support both the GOP Platform and the appointment of Justices like Thomas and Scalia. Do you?
Long Cut wrote:
Well said. The comments on this thread by the zealots offer ample proof of this.
Having read the WHOLE thing, the obsession with which this small minority (and it appears as only a half-dozen or so continuous posters) approaches the issue seems to crowd out all logic, all sense, all proportion.
One wonders just how such obsessive singlemindedness was created in their minds, and what sustains it.
Fanatical devotion 'to the cause', [any cause, not just abortion], is a mental illness imho.
Devotees seem to find their cause, and zealously embrace its tenets irregardless of whether those beliefs further even their own self interest in liberty. -- They become self-less in a cause that destroys their own freedom, and the freedoms of their peers.
Such men are mad.
As we are finding out in Iraq in our war on terrorists.
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