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To: Psalm 73

I've been a Queen freak since I was a kid, Musically there is not even any comparison with the Clash, who while being spirited and entertaining, are basically 3 chord hackers. Name a music genre and Queen probably covered it, and at one time were the most popular band in the world and set a record for biggest live crowd (in Brazil). Their live show was amazing. Freddie Mercury is probably one of the top 3 rock vocalists ever, considering range, timbre, inflection, emotion. All 4 members were fantastic composers, and every one of them wrote a #1 hit song during Queen's heyday. Another tribute to the band is that from '71 or so until Mercury's death Queen maintained the same line-up, proving that they were able to sublimate their egos and work well with each other, and all of them were strong composers and had a strong vision of what they wanted to do, yet they were able to comprimise. The depth of virtuosity in their music is at a level of pro classically trained musicicians, while Clash, good as they are, were about at the level of Chuck Berry rockers. Great music, but not virtuosos. They also had very limited commercial success, while not the be all and end all, is a way to measure how many people a band is able to entertain and their influence on music. I think Queen had an enormous impact and influence on other bands.

I've been a professional musician, producer, recording studio owner, record reviewer, guitar & bass teacher and pro soundman for 20+ years, so I have some backup to my opinion, anyway. I know people say "well everyone is entitled to their opinion" which is true, but everyone's opinion doesn't carry the same weight. I could give my opinion on rocket science or brain surgery but I'd defer to an expert or someone who had spent years studying the subject. My personal and professional opinion is Clash isn't in the same league as Queen. They aren't even in the same sport. Queen could even play angry punkish rock better than Clash (Sheer Heart Attack from News of the World is a good example.)


97 posted on 11/12/2004 8:49:07 PM PST by puppetz
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To: puppetz

I too was a big Queen fan but the problem is they sucked at the end...first time I saw them in concert was '77 and they were great but I grew disenchanted with their music and shows after that; Flash Gordon, Fat Bottom Girls...it was awful in the middle 80's!


101 posted on 11/12/2004 8:55:41 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: puppetz

This is SO much fun.. what with having to allow for "taste". Bands like the Clash are famous for "attitude", not skill.

There is still such a thing as "talent", as opposed to "no talent". I've been a classic rock/metal/blues guitar player for 26 years, so I've got a few suggestions for the Freepers on this thread who have good taste, but might have overlooked a valuable album here or there.

Led Zeppelin- Presence (1976) doesn't get enough respect.
Rainbow- Rising (1976) Blackmore and Dio in a serious mood.
Rainbow- On Stage (1977) Even better. Really. Apart from classical music, my favorite album ever.
Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush- Live (1977) the most under-rated guitar virtuoso ever. Classy stuff.
Robin Trower-Live (1976) James Dewar had the most beautiful voice for the blues in the modern era. Trower is on fire.
Joe Satriani-Crystal Planet (1998) A never-ending feast for high-tech guitar players. Melodic, lyrical, and awe-inspiring.
Yes- Talk (1995) We all love Fragile,and 90125, but this overlooked album deserves attention too.
Black Sabbath- Sabotage(1975) Possibly the high-water mark for the Ozzy era. Never Say Die(1979), though dismissed and derided by most, is also FULL of brilliant playing.
Blue Oyster Cult- Heaven Forbid (1998) Better by far than Agents of Fortune, their best seller fron '76. Every song should have been a hit.

Just in case you like any of these guys and missed some of their less-hyped work.


151 posted on 11/13/2004 7:02:21 PM PST by Burr5
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To: puppetz
"I've been a professional musician, producer, recording studio owner, record reviewer, guitar & bass teacher and pro soundman for 20+ years, so I have some backup to my opinion...."

And, I might add, you're also hysterical.
I still say real men don't worship "Queen", but thanks for sharing.
(So "lighten up, Francis".)

153 posted on 11/15/2004 4:01:21 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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