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Gonzales Wrong for Attorney General; Why Won't Bush pick a Pro-Life Nominee? American Life League.
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Posted on 11/12/2004 9:07:10 AM PST by cpforlife.org

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To: Coleus
"Obviously, if you think Gonzales is right than Owen must be wrong."

Yes, I think Owens was wrong.

461 posted on 11/12/2004 7:44:35 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

A judge overturning Roe is not legislating from the bench but instead returning things to the status quo ante.


462 posted on 11/12/2004 7:45:13 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: TAdams8591
"I would have much prefered a pro-life AG"

Alberto Gonzales is pro-life.

What makes you think that he's not?

463 posted on 11/12/2004 7:45:49 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

Never said that overturning Roe v. Wade would be legislating from the bench. There is no law named "Roe v. Wade".


464 posted on 11/12/2004 7:46:53 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

Your point about the sins of the father is totally irrelevant. The child's NEED creates in him an inferiority. A person who attaches himself to the blood supply of another, and draws nourishment from her, and causes that person GREAT PAIN, is not innocent.


465 posted on 11/12/2004 7:50:26 PM PST by H.Akston (It's all about property rights)
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To: Coleus
"...so are you going to say that she was wrong for supporting the law..."

The point is that she did NOT support the law, she supported her NOTION of the law.

The law allows for a minor to seek a "judicial bypass" on the notification, and it sets standards, albeit rather ambiguous standards, to establish whether that judicial bypass should be granted.

What are those standards?

"The court may grant her request if the minor is able to establish she is mature and sufficiently well informed to make the decision to have the abortion without telling her parent or guardian."

Maturity was not an issue, so all that's left is defining "sufficiently well informed to make the decision".

Well, I have no doubt that she was well aware of what her decision meant, and that she had consulted with a physician and addressed what risks she faced.

466 posted on 11/12/2004 7:54:26 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
From your post it sounded as if you were saying that. If I misunderstood, I apologize.
467 posted on 11/12/2004 7:54:40 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: H.Akston
The same could be said for those on life support. Are they free game too?
468 posted on 11/12/2004 7:55:49 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

rather ambiguous standards,>>

you hit the nail on the head.

It's all arbitrary, if he were pro life he would have sided with Priscella Owen, who obviously isn't a good judge since Gonzales did the right thing according to you.

Hey, you can't have it both ways either Gonzales was right and Owen wrong or the other way around.

So, the minor is now an adult, who aborted her living child and will most likely suffer lifelong depression, possibly suicide and an increase risk of getting breast cancer! Way to go Gonzales.

Who knows maybe she's now sterile too.


469 posted on 11/12/2004 8:00:15 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, Don't Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: radicalamericannationalist
"I believe that the rights of unborn children should be constitutionalized."

BINGO!

first and foremost, define the rights of the unborn BY LAW!

Coincidentally, that's been on Bush's plate since he was elected.

President Signs Rights for Unborn Victims  
Written by Tom Strode

WASHINGTON (BP)--Federal law now recognizes an unborn child as a victim when he or she is harmed or killed in a crime against a pregnant woman.

President Bush signed the Unborn Victims of Violence Act into law April 1. Federal law has not treated an unborn child as a victim when he or she dies as a result of an assault against or murder of the mother, even though 29 states have laws that recognize the illegal killing of an unborn child as murder in at least some cases.

It's amazing to me that people are so incredibly short-sighted, that they would question the decision of the one President who has accomplished the most for the unborn in the past twenty years.

470 posted on 11/12/2004 8:00:33 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: deport

I'll remember this when President Bush appoints Priscilla Owen to the SCOTUS. If Gonzales was right then Owen was wrong. You can't have it both ways.


471 posted on 11/12/2004 8:01:36 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, Don't Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: Coleus

WRONG!

Jane Doe met the criteria as the law was written!

She was mature (age of consent in Texas is 17), and she was sufficiently well informed about the repercussions of her decision.

I don't want a Judge slanting his opinion based on his feelings from either side of this issue!


472 posted on 11/12/2004 8:03:25 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Coleus
"Hey, you can't have it both ways either Gonzales was right and Owen wrong or the other way around."

What the hell are you babbling about "have it both ways"?

Owen was wrong in this case.

473 posted on 11/12/2004 8:04:55 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: cpforlife.org
This article is wrong we need to appoint people who will uphold the Law as it stands, laws can be amended and will be. We need people who will support laws as written and not as they interpet.
474 posted on 11/12/2004 8:05:45 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I'm actually glad that he put Gonzales here rather than SCOTUS. Aside from abortion, Gonzales helped to water down the administration's brief in the affirmative action cases last year. I fear for him on a number of issues.
475 posted on 11/12/2004 8:06:08 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Did you read the rest of that post?


476 posted on 11/12/2004 8:06:42 PM PST by TAdams8591 (BORK SPECTER!!!)
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To: TAdams8591

Yes, I read the rest of the post, and my question stands.


477 posted on 11/12/2004 8:11:50 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Coleus

I'll remember this when President Bush appoints Priscilla Owen to the SCOTUS.



Thanks..... I hope she makes it if the nomination comes her way. I'd much prefer her to a left wing idealogue. She saw the case one way Gonzales saw it another.... I think she was wrong in her view and Gonzales is correct.


478 posted on 11/12/2004 8:14:10 PM PST by deport (I've done a lot things.... seen a lot of things..... Most of which I don't remember.)
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To: deport

I think she was wrong in her view and Gonzales is correct.>>

ok


479 posted on 11/12/2004 8:15:59 PM PST by Coleus ( www.catholicTeamLeader.com)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Owen was wrong in this case. >>

Was she? How so? So I guess she should't be trusted to be a justice of the SCOTUS.

The legislature passed a law mandating parental notification in TX leaving a back door open for judges, leaving nothing really spelled out in the law as to what instances can a child have an abortion without the parents knowing and the pro-abortion judges ruled in her favor and the pro-life judges ruled against her.

I'd say the judges that ruled in her favor are activist judges since the law was written to prevent young girls from having an abortion. She had an abortion, ergo, Gonzales is an activist judge.


480 posted on 11/12/2004 8:22:20 PM PST by Coleus ( www.catholicTeamLeader.com)
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