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Will the Real Democratic Party Please Stand Up
Intellectual Conservative ^ | 12 November 2004 | Barbara Stock

Posted on 11/12/2004 6:42:59 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Piquaboy
The real Democratic Party was lost back in the 60's somewhere.

While we're on the subject, the real Republican Party got up and left many conservatives in the 90s. Both parties have moved to the left. It's about time for a Freeper Party.

21 posted on 11/12/2004 7:35:46 AM PST by Reeses
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To: ExTexasRedhead
The Liberals keep bashing the Red states.They better look at the county by county map, several of the Blue states are mostly RED. ---------


Hit the liberal self destruct button...BOOOOOMMMM!!
22 posted on 11/12/2004 7:37:07 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Reeses

I agree with you on that. Even the president has done things I am not proud of.


23 posted on 11/12/2004 7:39:17 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, AIr Force, Pray for all our military in hostile territory.)
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To: bray

I'm all for a strong Two Party system. Checks & Balances. One can prevent the other from going overboard. That is what has happened, the Dems have gone ULTRA liberal and are now paying the price for it. The GOP has their chance to really put their STAMP on things. IMHO the biggies are the Judges, get judges in there that WILL NOT LEGISLATE from the bench. For the past 20 years it has seemed that the Supreme Court and the lessor Courts in the country has been the biggest inroads for many liberal ideas and laws.

The GOP has 2 to 4 years to get this going and the other changes like Tax Policy before the pedulum swings the other way. To help keep the White House they need to find Dem govornors and keep an eye on them and also to start NOW to poke holes in Hillary's boat. Force her to make votes on bigg issues - either she votes conservative or liberal and either way it hurts her......Just have to get the spotlight on it


24 posted on 11/12/2004 7:41:18 AM PST by TheShaz (If the Kerry Campaign was the movie TITANIC - this would be the scene where the rats are running.)
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To: Piquaboy

"Hillary has already started changing spots. By 2008, she will be farther to the right than I am. In words only!"
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Yes, the wicked Marxist Witch of the East will be lying her unqualifed butt off for the next 4 years...doing what all far-left Dems do, trying to convince voters they are something other than hard Socialists who are only concerned about power and control. She is no different and will never be anything else, since her resume is a blank sheet of paper...


25 posted on 11/12/2004 7:43:09 AM PST by EagleUSA (W)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
We need to do two things, I think. First, we need to try to get as many of the "old-school" Democrats (the ones who are still American in their thinking) as possible to join the Republican Party. Many of them are Democrats only reflexively anyway.

Second, we need to help those Democrats who are aghast at their current party but who just can't bring themselves to join the Republicans to leave the Democrat Party for either a new centrist replacement party or some existing party (I don't know of any offhand) that would fit their views better. I'm thinking of the relationship the Republicans had to the Whigs in 1856. We might lose some of the more liberal Republicans to such a party, but that would be OK I think.

I think it's important to have at least two major parties in the country, and that the current Democrat Party can no longer serve the function of one of those parties. So how can we help disaffected Dems jump ship?

26 posted on 11/12/2004 7:47:45 AM PST by Doug Loss
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The Real Democrat Party can't stand up. It's treading water down in the sewer--and the water's swirling down the drain.

Goodbye and good riddance!

27 posted on 11/12/2004 7:52:21 AM PST by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were Democrats. My children are ALL Republicans!)
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To: Piquaboy
"Progressive” senators are not hard to identify. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, Hillary Clinton of New York, John Kerry of Massachusetts, Barbara Boxer of California, Diane Feinstein of California, and Patty Murray of Washington are the most visible and powerful."

What amazes me is that "progressives" (I have many friends that carry the label on the East Coast) think that progressive equates with intelligence. This article proves it wrong. Progressive equates with being anti-American.

And, if guilt by association is acknowledged, then any club with Patty Murray in it can't be called "smart" or "intelligent."

28 posted on 11/12/2004 7:55:56 AM PST by tom h
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

If your ideas and ideals are correct, you don't have to hide them by changing your label from liberal to progressive.


29 posted on 11/12/2004 7:56:08 AM PST by wildbill
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To: ExTexasRedhead
They better look at the county by county map,

Very good point.
The county by county map gives the blues very little hope and is a much different indicator of where America stands today.
The "progressive" base is ever dwindling.
The pockets of "blue" support, i.e., socialists or the more "PC progressives," are areas where the people truly think they can invent their own utopian world, which includes a new morality.
Areas like Hollywood, Vermont, the european "Enlightened" socialist population centers of New York City and Boston; these all think their own ideas are superior to the historic cherished values that first birthed America and then attacted others to come here and then finally have made her (and continues to make her)a great beacon for Light in a corrupt and dark world.

Thank God for the vast display of red counties. That's the hope of America!

30 posted on 11/12/2004 8:07:59 AM PST by ThirstyMan
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To: Reeses
While we're on the subject, the real Republican Party got up and left many conservatives in the 90s. Both parties have moved to the left. It's about time for a Freeper Party.


I think you are going to see that "party". The Dems did a really stupid thing in trying to push a Euro-socialist, elitist down our throats. The usually sleepy, "live and let live" right are fully awake now and see the need to move. Lately I have heard more average hard working folks talk about taking up some sort of activist cause than any other time in my life. It's like they believe they messed up by not getting involved in the past and feel like we almost lost our country. I think they are right. In addition, the baby boomers have come of age and the liberals trying to tap our young will no longer work for them. They have seen first hand how people like Kerry can warp things through the media and cause political chaos..thank God for the 60's. Looks like we learned something.
31 posted on 11/12/2004 8:13:48 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
They just don't understand. John Kerry didn't "lose" the election. George Bush won the election despite all the media dirty tricks, like the false exit polling data.
32 posted on 11/12/2004 8:20:03 AM PST by SaveTheChief ("It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech." - Senator Zell Miller)
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To: Doug Loss
So how can we help disaffected Dems jump ship?


Do something about the ones who are lying to them..the media.Make sure they keep associating themselves with scums like they are now and be sure to paint a clear picture of this to the "values" crowd. Title it,"Look what they did to the great Democratic party."
33 posted on 11/12/2004 8:21:05 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: tom h

Progressives also denote Socialist.


34 posted on 11/13/2004 5:57:56 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, AIr Force, Pray for all our military in hostile territory.)
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