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To: nopardons

No, I'm not going to rethink my position. I agree that it is sinful, I'm just not into judging. I think having your tubes tied is sinful as well as having sex outside of marriage. The world is full of sinners and I am one of them.

I gave you the extremely short version of my families problem. My aunt handled it (with the help of my grandma) after her husband was thrown in jail. They made mistakes but are good people. My grandma was in her 60's when she helped my aunt. It does prove the point I'm trying to make. You have no idea how it will turn out. Theses parents have a lot of relatives that may very well be there to help if for some reason the age or health of the parents becomes a problem.

I think God has a plan here. Again, it's not like anyone would have dreamed this could happen. Are you suggesting that she should have an abortion? Not even given these kids a chance? You have no idea how these kids lives will turn out. The kids have brought the parents back together. So maybe some good has come of it already.

God makes babies. They are miracles. No matter who the parents are. They deserve a chance despite the naysayers that have determined their lives will suck just because the parents are old. Wow.

"The woman divorced her husband many years ago,but obviously still had sexual relations with him and who knows how many others."

You have no idea the kind of life she had!! You are making your own assumptions. She very well may have been married when she had her first child. And what makes you say she slept with many others? This story does not even give that kind of information. Don't start spreading gossip!

Keep your opinion and I will keep mine. No worries.


24 posted on 11/12/2004 5:01:47 PM PST by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: samiam1972
Why is having one's tubes tied "sinful"?

Is the only kind of birth control you accept,abstinence?

Sheeeeeeeeeesh...I really don't think I want the "full" story. The father is a criminal,your Aunt is mentally retarded,and now you've changed the story,claiming that your grandmother just "helped" a little?

Look...there's something VERY dishy with the story in this article.A 59 year old woman isn't capable of still menstruating and tied tubes just do NOT secretly come undone over a period of many years.And GOD doesn't oversee every single person on Earth's happenstances.You can believe that if you want to,but you then have to also believe that GOD is responsible to every single bad thing that happens too. Helloooooooooooooooo.............? Even the Cathars and Manacheism has two deities...one evil and one good.

I made no assumption...I just threw out some possibilities.This woman got pregnant somehow and it most assuredly wasn't an immaculate conception;ergo, she had sexual relations with at least one man,to who she was not married.As I said,this story is bizarre! There are so many holes in it,that it is unbelievable as is.

And you have made quite a number of assumptions on your own;not to mention basing your opinions in a type of mindless religiosity,that doesn't strengthen your case.You don't know how much longer these parents will live,if the are in good health,or even if they have enough money to provide for these babies,should they die soon.There is no way to know if their older children and grandchildren,or even the great grandchildren will help. And there are health risks for a pregnant woman this age,as well as to the children she's carrying.

Since I never mentioned abortion,in any of my posts,it appears that you see things that are neither written,nor implied.Maybe that's why you also missed the point,in the Bible,about being judgmental.We actually ARE supposed to judge...though many do mistake the " JUDGE NOT,LEST YE BE JUDGED" part,for meaning that we shouldn't judge acts and people.

29 posted on 11/12/2004 5:23:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: samiam1972
"God makes babies. They are miracles. No matter who the parents are. They deserve a chance despite the naysayers that have determined their lives will suck just because the parents are old. Wow."

Actually, God only made one baby as far as I know. God gave everyone else the ability to make babies. Its up to them to think before they begin the act that brings about a baby.

164 posted on 11/13/2004 4:26:57 AM PST by DaGman
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