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Clemens wins record 7th Cy Young Award
News 8 Austin ^

Posted on 11/10/2004 4:18:45 PM PST by Gucho

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1 posted on 11/10/2004 4:18:45 PM PST by Gucho
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To: Gucho

He deserves it. He took the Astros to the NL championship. Good for him.


2 posted on 11/10/2004 4:21:08 PM PST by Angry Republican (yvan eht nioj!)
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To: Gucho

Has the AL winner been announced yet? I have my fingers crossed for Johan Santana.


3 posted on 11/10/2004 4:21:45 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: Gucho
$$$$$ Rookie Card $$$$$ Yippee!

I hope this will make up (some day) for selling my Ryan Rookie in '78.

4 posted on 11/10/2004 4:22:45 PM PST by Gumption
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To: Gucho

Tip of the hat to a great picher and a state that produces pitchers with bionic arms.


5 posted on 11/10/2004 4:23:08 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Gucho
Gaylord Perry was 40 when he won the NL honor in 1978.

Perry looked like he was pushing sixty.

Neikro should have won it that year, but he had the misfortune of playing in the "Launching Pad" with a crappy team behind him.
6 posted on 11/10/2004 4:23:20 PM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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To: Gucho

Clemens was a jerk when I coached Little League.

He was a jerk in junior-high school.

He was a jerk in high school.

He was a jerk in college.

He was a jerk when with the Boston Red Sox.

He was a jerk when with the Expos.

He was a jerk when with the Yankees.

He was a jerk when with the Astros.

He is still, to this day, a jerk.

Some things never change.


7 posted on 11/10/2004 4:24:37 PM PST by El Gran Salseron (My wife just won the "Inmate of the Month" Award! :-))
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To: All

Clemens top 10 record for Cy Young Award:
Top 10 CYA
1986-AL-1
1987-AL-1
1988-AL-6
1990-AL-2
1991-AL-1
1992-AL-3
1997-AL-1
1998-AL-1
2000-AL-6
2001-AL-1
2004-NL-1


8 posted on 11/10/2004 4:26:55 PM PST by Gucho
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To: Gucho

He really is an ageless wonder and a freak of nature.

Even though he turned his back on the Yankees to pitch for Houston, he deserves it. Kudos Roger. May you continue to do the thing you love -- pitch -- long into the future.


9 posted on 11/10/2004 4:29:20 PM PST by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: SoDak

"Has the AL winner been announced yet? I have my fingers crossed for Johan Santana."

Will be named tomorrow:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6447560/


10 posted on 11/10/2004 4:39:54 PM PST by Gucho
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To: Angry Republican
I respectfully disagree.

Randy Johnson put up better numbers, in every category except wins, and that was because of how pathetic the rest of the D-backs were.

Re Clemens:
He won his first nine decisions and finished 18-4 with a 2.98 ERA and 218 strikeouts.

And re Johnson:
The Big Unit went 16-14 with a 2.60 ERA and a major league-leading 290 strikeouts - Arizona scored two runs or fewer in 17 of his 35 starts.

To be honest, Johnson was a better pitcher.
11 posted on 11/10/2004 4:41:20 PM PST by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: All

RJ's 2004 Record = http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4288

Rocket's 2004 Record = http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=3340


12 posted on 11/10/2004 5:01:14 PM PST by Gucho
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To: sharktrager

Yes, it's too bad Johnson was playing for a minor league team this year. Otherwise, he would have won the award easily.


13 posted on 11/10/2004 5:14:12 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: sharktrager
Steve Carlton won 27 games in a year when his team won only 59.

Randy Johnson's 16-14 is impressive on a team that barely topped 50 wins, but Clemens won a lot of close games and fully deserves the award. Wins are what ultimately counts, and Clemens always seemed to have just enough to win.

Clemens's career record is now 328-164, exactly twice as many wins as losses. When a whole team goes 108-54, it is regarded as a great, great team. For an individual pitcher to do for his entire career is almost unparalleled -- I think Clemens has the top career winning percentage of any righthander with 200 wins.

14 posted on 11/10/2004 7:01:47 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: VeritatisSplendor

"I think Clemens has the top career winning percentage of any righthander with 200 wins."

Bob Caruthers
Robert Lee Caruthers (Parisian Bob)
Bats Left, Throws Right
Height 5' 7", Weight 138 lb.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/carutbo01.shtml


15 posted on 11/10/2004 10:16:35 PM PST by Gucho
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To: VeritatisSplendor

Ballplayer Bob Caruthers
http://brandy.weblogs.us/poster/ballplayer-bob-caruthers-831411.html


16 posted on 11/10/2004 10:38:06 PM PST by Gucho
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OK, if you want to go back to the 19th century, then Caruthers did even better with his 218-99 percentage. So Clemens has the top career winning percentage of any righthander with more than 218 wins, still extremely impressive....

Some would say that records from before 1900 shouldn't count because the game was so different; for some records that is true, but won-lost percentage is insensitive to any changes in the game because they affect both teams equally, so I don't have a problem counting Caruthers.

17 posted on 11/11/2004 10:12:53 AM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Gucho

Maybe some day the choke will win a 7th game.


18 posted on 11/11/2004 10:13:42 AM PST by Radix (Wanna buy a reasonably well designed Tag Line?)
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To: Gucho

I thoroughly dislike Clemens.

However, I can't deny that he is talented and he deserves it.


19 posted on 11/11/2004 10:14:58 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Angry Republican

this arrogant POS didnt "take the astros to the NL" the rest of the astros took themselves. 18 wins and Cy Young? give me a friggin break.
The Capt.


20 posted on 11/11/2004 10:15:26 AM PST by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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