[expatpat]

Not necessarily. One part of the plan is for them to go back to Mexico and apply from there.

[Dat Mon]

Here is the jist of the argument IMHO.

To come here LEGALLY takes time and money, at the very least.

To come here ILLEGALLY takes no time, and no money unless you are smuggled in by an organized gang.

To come here LEGALLY means following the established laws as outlined by the Congress and enforced by the Executive branch.

To come here ILLEGALLY menas following NO laws except how to not get caught.

Now, should either group have the same rights, ONCE HERE, to live, work, receive social services, etc, ASIDE from the fact that neither group have become naturalized citizens, with voting privaledges.

Any guest worker plan has to penalize in some way the folks who have already broken the law. There is no way around it. The majority of folks will not accept anything less.

Now, we have to agree on the penalties, and the means of enforcement.