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Faiths to share meal, 'build up bridges'
Daily Herald ^ | 11/10/2004 | Eileen O. Daday

Posted on 11/10/2004 4:13:33 AM PST by a_Turk

The potluck dinner Thursday at Trinity United Methodist Church in Mount Prospect puts a new spin on the traditional meal - a Ramadan feast.

Church members will break bread with their Muslim neighbors at the unique dinner that will feature a combination of Turkish and American dishes. The ecumenical event begins at 6 p.m. with Muslim and Christian prayers in the church Narthex, followed by the meal at 6:30 p.m.

According to the Rev. Kirk Reed, senior pastor, the dinner is sold out with 130 reservations, including church members and Muslims living in the Northwest suburbs.

Turkish Muslims participating in the event are active with the Niagara Foundation, an organization dedicated to promoting global fellowship, and are working with Mount Prospect officials to build a community center.

"Our mission with the dinner is to build up bridges, not walls, between the two communities," said Kemal "Kevin" Oksuz, Niagara Foundation executive director.

Ramadan is a month of fasting, prayer and charity, and is observed by more than 6 million American Muslims. While the feast technically is not celebrating the end of Ramadan, the idea to come together was developed during the holy month.

"We're doing this in the spirit of Ramadan, knowing it's such an important observance," said Bob Martindale, church staff member.

The joint prayer service and dinner is not the first step in forging a relationship between the two faith communities, Martindale adds. In October, Muslim neighbors began volunteering at Trinity United's PADS shelter program by bringing dinners.

For the potluck feast, they are bringing such Turkish foods as lentil soup, shepherd salad, sarma or stuffed grape leaves, beef filet with Turkish rice, baklava and fruit. Trinity members will provide salads and vegetables.

"Due to misunderstandings and misconceptions, we don't know each other," Oksuz said. "Whatever we know about each other is from a third party. We need to see each other more and then we will know each other."

Reed is beginning his ninth year leading Trinity church members. In 2002, Mount Prospect officials honored him as a "Shining Star" for breaking down social and cultural barriers within his church and throughout the village.

He and his church members also have been driving forces behind the last two Diversity Walks in Arlington Heights, held to promote learning about the cultural and ethnic contributions of Northwest suburban residents.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: christianity; islam; usa
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1 posted on 11/10/2004 4:13:34 AM PST by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
Happy Ramadan!


2 posted on 11/10/2004 4:20:48 AM PST by fishtank
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To: a_Turk

Is the "World Council of Churches" involved in this New World Religion of sorts? WHy not allow all faiths to come together and "let's all live in peace and harmony". Lets give peace a chance. BARF!!!

There is only "one way, truth and life" Not many paths, just ONE!

Do my Islamic neighbours need help?


3 posted on 11/10/2004 4:22:30 AM PST by ruready4eternity (Carpet Bomb FALLUJAH!)
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To: ruready4eternity

What? Satan barfs at the prospect of peace and harmony?

There is only one way, that is true: the way to hell.

But there are infinitely many ways to God, that is the grace of his mercy after all.

Come to Jesus brother. He's not just a plastic figurine.


4 posted on 11/10/2004 4:34:19 AM PST by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice, Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria..)
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To: a_Turk

Man made peace and harmony is temporary and deceptive, God's peace which can only come through Jesus Christ is the only true way. Islam has an Idol for "god". HOw can you join yourself to that?


5 posted on 11/10/2004 4:40:32 AM PST by ruready4eternity (Carpet Bomb FALLUJAH!)
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To: ruready4eternity

Usame says that Christianity has an idol for God.

Take a step back. There is hope.


6 posted on 11/10/2004 4:43:37 AM PST by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice, Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria..)
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To: ruready4eternity

It may be OK to have dinner together, but there is no common ground in faith. The Allah that the Muslims worship is NOT the God of Christianity


7 posted on 11/10/2004 4:57:10 AM PST by Knute (The PEOPLE have spoken!)
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To: ruready4eternity

I think the leftist 'World Council of Churches' is behind this. Each year there is a special collection day in the United Methodist Church to fund that organization.


8 posted on 11/10/2004 5:12:06 AM PST by haikim39
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To: a_Turk

I have more in common with Muslims than I have with atheists. People of faith are our allies against European-style nihilism. Christians at a Ramazan iftar would politely ignore veneration of the Prophet, in the same fashion as Jews invited to a Christmas dinner. Yelling about how Muslims are theologically incorrect is beside the point.


9 posted on 11/10/2004 5:12:47 AM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: a_Turk

Funny how this event had to happen in a church, and that people of other faiths were not invited to a mosque to celebrate a Muslim holiday.


10 posted on 11/10/2004 5:27:22 AM PST by Gefreiter ("Flee...into the peace and safety of a new dark age." HP Lovecraft)
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To: Gefreiter

Probably the Moe-ham-heads did't want anyone to count the ammo.


11 posted on 11/10/2004 5:40:46 AM PST by Safetgiver (Mud slung is ground lost.)
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To: a_Turk

Why did I know this would be a United Methodist church?
Q: What is the difference between the UMC book of doctrine and the Democratic party platform?
A: The UMC book has more prayers.


12 posted on 11/10/2004 5:42:38 AM PST by Kerfuffle
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To: a_Turk

Ya, OK, but will the Muslims invite the Christians over for a Christmas celebration? Why isn't that "idea" mentioned anywhere?


13 posted on 11/10/2004 7:09:16 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: haikim39
I think the leftist 'World Council of Churches' is behind this. Each year there is a special collection day in the United Methodist Church to fund that organization.

Along with every other radical leftist cause you can think of....

14 posted on 11/10/2004 8:45:29 AM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; jude24; AZhardliner; ...
GRPL Ping

Heresy Alert


15 posted on 11/10/2004 8:48:07 AM PST by Gamecock (What do neeners and dems have in common? Both are in denial about [the] election.)
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To: Gamecock

What a novel idea. I wonder how many will Methodists will convert to Islam?


16 posted on 11/10/2004 8:56:21 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: xzins

Thought you might be interested.


17 posted on 11/10/2004 8:58:08 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; Revelation 911
Thought you might be interested.

Ditto

18 posted on 11/10/2004 9:02:53 AM PST by Gamecock (What do neeners and dems have in common? Both are in denial about [the] election.)
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To: Gamecock
- sigh -

The UMC again. Doing their best to keep up with the PC(USA), I see.

UMC churchgoers ought to question if their leadership's view of Christ's death and resurrection is the same as the Muslims' view, before they attend ecumenical prayer meetings with them.

19 posted on 11/10/2004 9:09:10 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: a_Turk
Moderate Muslims should be wary of the perfidy of liberal "Christians." The liberals presently see Muslims as their allies against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and against cultural conservatives who emphasize the Western and Christian roots of traditional American society. As multiculturalists, they recognize that Islam, whether of the extremist or moderate variety, is an enemy of the secular humanism they espouse. (Liberal "Christianity" is essentially secular humanism with a theistic veneer.) However, as Muslims are a small minority of the American population and mostly non-European in ethnicity, the liberals see them as part of their "rainbow coalition" to defeat traditional Christians and conservatism, both cultural and political. (Of course, white liberals expect to lead the "rainbow coalition.")

In this respect, the Muslims should learn from the experience of the Jews (of all people!) in their experience with liberal "Christians." At the founding of the State of Israel, it was liberal "Christians" who were the strongest supporters of the new state. The liberal denominations were the mainstays of Christian-Jewish interfaith organizations that fought discrimination against Jews in higher education, housing, country clubs, and other areas. However, in the 1980s and afterward, when Israel turned to the right politically, liberals and leftists, even many of Jewish background, became increasingly hostile to Zionism. By 2004, the Presbyterian Church (USA) has taken a very pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli slant in its position on the Middle East.

Lord Palmerston, a British Foreign Secretary in the 19th Century, stated: "There are no permanent alliances, only permanent interests." In 2004, the interests of Muslims and those of liberals and leftists may coincide. In a decade or two, they may not and Muslims may become as much an object of their wrath as evangelical Christians are at present.

20 posted on 11/10/2004 9:22:01 AM PST by Wallace T.
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