This support of the invasion is going to go through over the holidays, fast.>>
This is the ugly mask behind all the posturing tripe behind the protests here on FR. Call people on it and they will hypocritically claim "it is about ILLEGAL immigration, I have nothing against Latinos" ....., but when the possiblity comes to grent legal status to the millions of productive latinos whose ONE illegal act was one of crossing a border, watch the xenophobes HOWL.
The European immigrants earlier did NOT have to go through the labyrinthine Kafkaesque immigration visa requirements that we now have. THEY GOT ON THE BOAT AND CAME OVER. Half of em had no papers when they got here (ever hear of the phrase "WOP" ?). And guess what? We let them in, despite the ignorant howling of xenophobes about "pigsh!t Irish" and signs on the streets in NY stating "No Irish need apply." The idea that earlier immigrants lined up in neat ordely lines and got properly stamped visas in their passports is so stupid it is not even worth laughing at. They did not know what our immigration laws required back then (which was precious little!) and DID NOT CARE!!! They wanted a job, an opportunity, and a better life for their kids. This is the same spark that drives the immigrants today, except that the howling single synapse "conservatives" want to turn them back at the border by simpletons who think that brother Bob's plumbing company will have to COMPETE with "these people." I saw first hand the lazy, pathetic attitudes of whites towards aliens in Beaumont TX a few years ago when the Vietnamese refugees settled along the gulf coast. They DOMINATED the shrimp industry in a matter of years because they would work harder, longer, and for less money. The solution of the established shrimpers was to bring in the KLAN and harass these people. It would really piss them off when I told them that the "foreigners" were actually more American that they were, in that they were more in line with the attitudes of freedom and hard work than the native born whites. It is also true that many of the freepers, when it comes to this issue, are not conservatives at all, but rather resemble statists who want to use political power to protect the privilege and wealth gained by previous generations.
Stupid prejudice against Mexicans simply for seeking a better life for themselves and their children is UNAMERICAN, and I don't give a ratsass who hears it.
By the way, I am an anglo who never MET a mexican till I was 21 years old, and I am no "liberal" by any stretch of the imagination. I consider this type of posturing crap to be on a par with the moonbats over at DU. In some ways it is even MORE despicable. At least those nimrods have no moral or metaphysical basis for their "cause du jour." We, otoh, have centuries of statutes which recognize the plight of the widow, the orphan, and the foreigner among us, PLUS we grew to where we are by being the place where ANYONE could come and work hard and get ahead. Maybe we should change the inscription on Lady Liberty to read "give me your wealthy, your brain trusts, your elite with enough assets to prove they won't be a drain, and screw the huddled masses yearning to breathe free. We don't need em"
I imagine you have never lived in the central city of Los Angeles?
For every one seeking a better life, there are two sleeping off a hangover on your doorstep, beside a puddle of piss and on good day a chooped loaf of excrement. 100,000 gang-graffiti tags, and about 400 killing in this ONE CITY ALONE by gangs of illegal mexians every year. 9/11 is repeated every year times ten, except we just interpret it differently.
Yeah, yeah, we've all heard the "better life" theory.
Then, there's those of us with some life experience behind it and see how the system really works.
You can walk past most any liquior store around here and buy food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar so that the seller can buy some cervasa. Those transit tokens so generously given out by taxpayers can also by bought for 75 cents on the dollar from the Mexicans hanging around the bus and subway stops.
And forget the fact that you can hardly communicate with half the people. 5 year olds can learn english, but Mexicans who have been here for 10 years can't. Hey, i'm only forming opinions based on what I see.
Yeah, they're all hear for a better life. Every last one of them.
And I have flaming monkeys shooting out of my ass as we speak. See, look at them fly. Weeeeeeee ......
Why don't you bring your sorry ass down here to Cochise County, Arizona and see what a freakin' mess your stupid touchy-feely "oh, there just looking for a better life for themselves" crap has wrought!! It is unAmerican to leave our borders wide open for ANYONE - to include terrorists - to cross whenever they damned well feel like it!! It is unAmerican to let invaders from any country or any race or any whatever to stream into our country unchecked, steal jobs and reduce wages, over populate our cities, tax our welfare systems, close down our trauma centers and hospitals, raise our crime rates, trash our deserts and neighborhoods as they cross through leaving their garbage and feces behind them.
Look, Proposition 200 just passed in Arizona. It strengthened laws forbidding illegals from applying for welfare benefits, registering to vote, or from voting. Idiots like you screamed "xenophobia!" and "racist!" and other such crap yet nearly 50% of the voting latino community voted for the Proposition. They LIVE in Arizona where they see first hand the terrible effects that ILLEGAL aliens are having on us. They know! Are you going to call THEM racist too!?
This isn't about race or "xenophobia" - it is about being a nation that puts AMERICANS FIRST!
So, until you come down here and see firsthand what is really going on, STFU!
They did the same in my areas, Galveston Bay, Uncle Sugar daddy bought them all boats, American Shrimpers had to work and save for YEARS to get a boat, Uncle sugar daddy gave them all a license, American Shrimpers had to pay thousands and wait YEARS to get a license.
Now EVERYONE is poor, (could that be the plan?) cause the the bay has been over fished by to many boats, and to many cheaters shrimping at night in off limit areas.
I like the Vietnamese, friendly, hard working people but they have ruined our bay. Your example sucks. Also the Veitnamese came here as REAL immigrants, to stay and make a new life, illegals from the south are here to diss us, rob us and eventually kill us. They seem to think that this land really belongs to them and they want it back. There plan to take it back is to overwhelm us with illegal immigration.
The list of great nations that have either fallen or almost fell due to "illegal immigration" .
A clear admission that you don't understand the problem. If you were born and raised in So-Cal, you would be howling for the border to be closed, because you'd be able to see what uncontrolled immigration did to what was once a paradise.
Oh yeah -- the Irish, Italians, Polish, etc, didn't have an agenda to dismantle the United States and annex territory to their former countries. Many Mexicans DO have this agenda... web search "aztlan" if you don't believe me.
So much moronic, race-baiting open borders tripe, so little time. You apparently are a very sheltered person. You never met a Mexican until you were 21? Did you live in a closet?
To compare the now decades long Mexican invasion of America that has turned our country upside down, debased the sovereignty and integrity of our political process and is bankrupting our institutions across the country to America's past immigration history is beyond the pale.
Contrary to your assertions that much of the past European immigration was illegal and unwanted, nothing could be further from the truth. Back then our government actually controlled immigration and would periodically shut down or increase immigration as it suited our economic needs. Moreover assimilation was not an option, it was a requirement. If an immigrant refused to work, learn our language and adopt our customs they soon were sailing back to the old country and many did.
Contrast that to what we have today where Illegal Aliens don't need to learn English, don’t need to assimilate and have across the board carte blanche access to our welfare system including subsidized schooling, housing, free medical care, food stamps etc etc. etc. all on the dime of the American Taxpayer. To say nothing of the staggering social costs of increased crime, lower wages and new public infrastructure expenses caused by this epic invasion.
Simply put, if our government refuses to protect our borders and sovereignty from foreign invasion as MANDATED in our Constitution America’s days as a Free and Independent Republic are numbered. This now chronic failure to control illegal immigration is not being lost on the world. No doubt the PRC and many a Muslim Terrorist are only too pleased to see that we as a nation are unable to control the flow of immigrants coming to our country.