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Cronkite Lays Into Rather's Report (Battle of the Network Blowhards)
IMDb.com ^ | 11-9-04

Posted on 11/09/2004 8:47:03 PM PST by Paul Atreides

Walter Cronkite, who once remarked that Dan Rather, his successor as anchor of the CBS Evening News, should have been fired after he walked off the set in 1987 when his newscast was delayed by a tennis broadcast, has enlarged upon his previous criticism of Rather's discredited report on George W. Bush's National Guard service. Asked in an interview in the upcoming edition of Details whether he had ever come close to making a mistake like Rather's, Cronkite responded: "Fortunately, I don't know about the close times, and I'm sure there must have been some. But I never had a failure quite like that, where my sources actually turned out to be wrong, or not the sources they claimed to be."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cbs; cbsnews; danrather; giantpygmies; jumboshrimp; seebsnews; waltercronkite
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To: Paul Atreides

Cronkite lied in his teeth night after night about the Tet Offensive and everything else we were doing in Vietnam. He's got his nerve slamming Rather. They're two peas in a pod and if the internet had been around when Cronkite was still anchoring, his lies would have been exposed to the world too.


21 posted on 11/09/2004 9:09:14 PM PST by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: fat city

Glad to see somebody else remembers Douglas Edwards. Not very glamorous, but straighforward and no-nonsense. Seems to me Cronkite maneuvered him out of the anchor chair at CBS back in the early 1960s.


22 posted on 11/09/2004 9:10:28 PM PST by speedy
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To: Bonaparte

Did you hear the excerpts of Carol Simpson, on Rush's program, today? The woman is a blathering, blithering moron. She was talking about how she is of the generation that got into journalism to "change this country."


23 posted on 11/09/2004 9:13:47 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Lancey Howard
We will never know how many forgeries and false witnesses Cronkite and his contemporaries paraded before the American public night in and night out. I bet it was tons.

Considering that "the most trusted man in America" was strongly suggesting that Karl Rove manipulated bin-Laden - in some unknown nefarious way - to make a tape strongly in favor of Kerry a few days before the election, there's no telling what else ol' Walt made up. In his post-retirement auto-biography, he confessed that "he had always been a liberal at heart."

Nah! Who'd a'thunk it?!

24 posted on 11/09/2004 9:15:30 PM PST by xJones
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To: speedy

Help me. I only remember him as a kid, but somewhere I read that Frank Reynolds of ABC was a straight-shooter, if not conservative. I remember him almost weeping on-air about the (false) reports that James Brady had died from John Hinkley's bullet. Where are the "honest" reporters in the main stream media?


25 posted on 11/09/2004 9:16:11 PM PST by boop (Testing the tagline feature!)
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To: boop

I think Reynolds leaned toward liberalism, but he at least made an effort to be honest. Plus he could not stand working with Barbara Walters, so he has that in his favor. Chet Huntley was also a liberal, but he also tried to report it straight. But honestly, liberalism has dominated TV news since the 1950s, became thoroughly entrenched by the 1970s, and since then has moved more and more into the realm of fiction to serve its agenda.


26 posted on 11/09/2004 9:22:30 PM PST by speedy
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To: Paul Atreides

Ummm, why is Walter Cronkite still around. Someone should send him away to the glue factory.


27 posted on 11/09/2004 9:22:46 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: Paul Atreides

WHAT'S THE FREQUENCY, WALTER???

(Time for Walter to meet the gom-jabbar.)


28 posted on 11/09/2004 9:26:10 PM PST by shibumi (John Galt is alive and well. He tends bar in a casino restaurant.)
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To: speedy
Absolutely right on. I had just come back from a year in-country; and was sort of a fly on the wall, so to speak, observing the Washington heavies rather closely while serving as CNO's Personal Aide.

I remember both the Pueblo Incident and TET very well, as the news of both unfolded less than three weeks apart.

The close-source intelligence from the TET players -- and Cronkite were vastly different. But, it was not long after the situation stabilized from I corps to the Delta than Cronkite's blather had impacted on the populace.

Imagine the scene I observed from my 4th floor window in the Pentagon as I looked to the NW of the White House and observed a vast section of the Capitol on fire. I had to send a six-by-six with a contingent of Marines to bring a friend of the CNO's back to the Pentagon from the Willard Hotel, where the gent had been dropped off by the airport shuttle.

Cronkite aided and abetted the enemy; and was instrumental in the loss of American lives in SEA!! May his bones burn in hell.
29 posted on 11/09/2004 9:33:46 PM PST by dk/coro
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To: Paul Atreides

Bingo! How right your are.


30 posted on 11/09/2004 9:37:06 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: dk/coro

Thanks for relaying your experience. I agree wholeheartedly with you. Cronkite could not get away with his lies today. People were more naive about TV news in those days. Cronkite did as much as any single individual to portray Vietnam as a lost cause and thereby contribute to undermining the US position. Plus, I had forgotten how close in time the TET and Pueblo incidents took place.


31 posted on 11/09/2004 9:40:49 PM PST by speedy
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To: Paul Atreides
But I never had a failure quite like that, where my sources actually turned out to be wrong..."

Liar.

It's much like the pot calling the kettle "heavy".

32 posted on 11/09/2004 9:41:20 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Wneighbor

You can say that again...Cronkite isn't any better than Rather!


33 posted on 11/09/2004 9:45:55 PM PST by shortypic
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To: Paul Atreides

Yes, I heard about Carol Simpson's comments...what a freaking moron. She can't stand it that young people get their news from the internet and talk radio, and not from that Canadian Gas Bag Peter Jennings or from her on the weekends!


34 posted on 11/09/2004 9:49:50 PM PST by HARBER (CBS=COMMUNIST BROADCAST SCUMBAGS!)
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To: Paul Atreides

"There is no telling what ol' Walt got away with, in the days before the Internet and Talk Radio."

You said a mouthful there. That rat bastard has been a party to lies since at least the mid sixties. Some came apart, most never were discovered. There is a goldmine of scandal waiting for anyone who can get access to the CBS archives.


35 posted on 11/09/2004 9:50:29 PM PST by hinckley buzzard (me apar)
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To: Paul Atreides
No, I missed that one. Well, I'm pleased to report to Carol that "her generation" has changed this country -- into one that is profoundly suspicious of both liberalism and mainstream journalism. Congrats, Carol, and keep talking. When you see Dan, tell him to keep talking too.
36 posted on 11/09/2004 9:50:30 PM PST by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: fat city
And he wasn't half the newsman Douglas Edwards

I'm glad someone else is old enough to remember Douglas Edwards (Cronkite's predecessor). At that time the nightly news was 15 minutes, Edwards was very deadpan and only had time for just the facts.

Harry Reasoner did the news on weekends at CBS (prior to his stint at ABC) and had the same humorous skeptical approach to Washington poobahs that Brinkley did. Brit Hume seems to have inherited their mantle.

37 posted on 11/09/2004 9:54:36 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: boop

"Frank Reynolds of ABC"

ABC had Howard K. Smith also. As good a pair as there was, and better than most, for accuracy and impartiality. Never got the celebrity treatment though. America's loss.


38 posted on 11/09/2004 9:54:41 PM PST by hinckley buzzard (me apar)
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To: Paul Atreides

Cronkite is the guy who started the biggest lie ever told on network news: that we were losing the battle during the VC/NVA Tet Offensive, when in reality we were beating them to to a pulp.

Remember this: American forces NEVER lost a battle above company size during the entire Vietnam war. Not ONCE.


39 posted on 11/09/2004 10:00:52 PM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: Paul Atreides

Bump...


40 posted on 11/09/2004 10:01:55 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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