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To: Bella_Bru

Like you want to excise the word "Christmas" from the lexicon is not bacuse it is a Holiday, but because it is also a Christian Holy Day. Easter, being another (and even more important) Christian Holy Day has suffered a similar fate to that of Christmas. Coinicidence? I don't think so.

I never said I wanted to excise Christmas from the lexicon. I have said to me it is a meaningless day. You are the one who wrote in a a misdirected FReepmail that you do not believe that I neither celebrate nor receive any benefit from Christmas. Explain that one.

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I know of NO company where Christmas is NOT a paid holiday. So, if you don't work, you receive pay for the day. If you do work, you receive the holiday + regular pay. Looks like a benefit to me.

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Easter isn't a federal holiday. So what?

All my previous arguments were about your treating the federal holiday of Christmas differently than other federal holidays. So, when I shifted to discussion of Easter, I wanted to make it clear I wasn't using the "federal holiday" arguments.

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Easter, being another (and even more important) Christian Holy Day.

Tell me again how bunnies, chocolate and eggs (a nice fertility symbol, btw) factor into your religion's messianic story?

I KNEW when I started to write about Easter that this would be your reply. Easter the Holy Day, because it is observed by some 90% of the population has become more than a Holy Day. It is a cultural event. The sales, breaks, and baskets that used to bear the name "Easter" were reflective of that culture. These things do not diminish in any way the importance devout Christians attribute to the Resurrection of Jesus. Your words indicate disdain and dismissal of the HOLIEST tenet of Christianity. But, this, of course, is not surprising.

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So, why do Christmas parties suffer a name change in order to incorporate a similarly near, (and by your admission) minor Holy Day observed by 2% of the population?

Yep...it's the fault of all the Joooooooos. I knew that one was coming. Here's a little news bit: We had Jews, Chriostians, ateists, and a Hindu in my office. Not everyone is a trad Catholic.

Excuse me. You brought up the minor status of Chanukah. The word "Holiday" was chosen by those who opposed the word Christmas. "Happy Holidays" is the theme. So, o what alternate or additonal holiday could people be referring other than Chanukah? Is there a Hindu holiday in December? Is the birthday of famous atheist Madeline Murray O'Hare in December? I've been to many parties in December. Some were properly named for the holiday we were celebrating (Christmas). Others bore the name "Holiday" and there were menorahs and Stars of David (but, interestingly, no crucifixes) at them (Christians were only permitted Santa Claus, reindeers, and candy canes). But I haven't been to any displaying sacred cows, or photos of Ms. O'Hare. So, let's not play that canard.


209 posted on 11/11/2004 11:10:44 AM PST by carrier-aviator
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To: carrier-aviator
I know of NO company where Christmas is NOT a paid holiday. So, if you don't work, you receive pay for the day. If you do work, you receive the holiday + regular pay. Looks like a benefit to me.

I work as a thank you to my boss who is kind enough to let me take off the many holidays I do take off. It's the same reason I put in a few hours on Sundays; I leave early on Fridays in the winter. I am not overtime at all. It's called a favor.

Your words indicate disdain and dismissal of the HOLIEST tenet of Christianity. But, this, of course, is not surprising.

And Christians have never had disdain for Jews. Please.

I guess you live in a shitty city then that has no trees or nativity scenes for Christmas. Most cities in L.A. County have one or both.

And quite honestly, I have never been offended by hearing Merry Christmas. I used to be Catholic. I converted to Judaism several years ago and never looked back. But it sure was fun watching you foam at the mouth.

And I am happy to say that the majority of Christians I know fight real problems. Not petty, penny ante crap like this.

210 posted on 11/11/2004 11:47:33 AM PST by Bella_Bru (Proud member of La Kosher Nostra and the IZC)
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