I work as a thank you to my boss who is kind enough to let me take off the many holidays I do take off. It's the same reason I put in a few hours on Sundays; I leave early on Fridays in the winter. I am not overtime at all. It's called a favor.
Your words indicate disdain and dismissal of the HOLIEST tenet of Christianity. But, this, of course, is not surprising.
And Christians have never had disdain for Jews. Please.
I guess you live in a shitty city then that has no trees or nativity scenes for Christmas. Most cities in L.A. County have one or both.
And quite honestly, I have never been offended by hearing Merry Christmas. I used to be Catholic. I converted to Judaism several years ago and never looked back. But it sure was fun watching you foam at the mouth.
And I am happy to say that the majority of Christians I know fight real problems. Not petty, penny ante crap like this.
About a dozen posts ago I said I would cease posting. Then I mistakenly sent yet one more post to you, and that re-opened the debate. This WILL BE my final post.
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I know of NO company where Christmas is NOT a paid holiday. So, if you don't work, you receive pay for the day. If you do work, you receive the holiday + regular pay. Looks like a benefit to me.
I work as a thank you to my boss who is kind enough to let me take off the many holidays I do take off. It's the same reason I put in a few hours on Sundays; I leave early on Fridays in the winter. I am not overtime at all. It's called a favor.
***** OK, fine. It seems to me that the flexibility you get, for other periods of time off, by working Christmas, is a benefit. But I won't argue with you on this point. Most detractors of Christmas that I know are only too happy, hypocritically, to take the day they disdain off. If you truly don't benefit then you are a rarity and are to be commended.
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Your words indicate disdain and dismissal of the HOLIEST tenet of Christianity. But, this, of course, is not surprising.
And Christians have never had disdain for Jews. Please.
*****Of course Christians have had disdain for Jews and vice versa. But I am talking about YOU. I never denigrated your religion. As a matter of fact I said I respected it (especially its Orthodox adherents). But that didn't stop YOU from taking a cheap shot at mine.
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I guess you live in a shitty city then that has no trees or nativity scenes for Christmas. Most cities in L.A. County have one or both.
*****NYC, DC, Boston. Menorahs and Stars of David are allowed at "Holiday" observances there. Crucifixes and Nativity Scenes are not. Christians are only allowed pagan symbols like reindeer, Frosty the Snowman, wooden soldiers and "Holiday" trees.
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And quite honestly, I have never been offended by hearing Merry Christmas. I used to be Catholic. I converted to Judaism several years ago and never looked back. But it sure was fun watching you foam at the mouth.
And I am happy to say that the majority of Christians I know fight real problems. Not petty, penny ante crap like this.
******The two aren't mutually exclusive. I've fought real problems my entire life. I am a retired "carrier-aviator" (that is, Navy pilot). I've conducted exercises with the Israeli Navy and Air Force. I've studied and practiced defense plans for friendly nations (i.e. Israel) in the Middle East. Hundreds of millions of Americans (I included) have paid taxes, a nice portion of which go to the Jewish state. And, I don't complain. I totally support Israel against the murderous Palestinians.
But the whole point of all these posts is that someone or something is trying to change traditions of America that endured from Independence until about 30 years ago. Who cares that Christmas is now "Holiday"? Who cares that Easter Break is now spring break, and that Good Friday, which used to be a solemn day, is now a day no different than any other? I do. And, so do lots of other ordinary Americans.
Who or what are the forces that have changed and want to continue to diminish these things? As I have mentioned, at least as far I have been able to observe it has been secularists, atheists, and militant, anti-Christian, non-religious Jews. I see it in the morphing of Christmas events into "Holiday" events by inserting Chanukah into the mix. I saw it in New York when Easter Break became Spring Break, and then centers around Passover with Holy Thursday and Good Friday becoming days of school attendance.
I guess it is easier to see the "Jewish" hand in all of this than it is to see the secularist or atheist hand (because of the Chanukah and Passover examples cited above). And when I see these conflicts in the press, it is invariably a Jewish name that has brought suit against a city because of a Nativity scene at City Hall or whose child is being permanently and emotionally scarred because he or she attends a school where the 5-year olders dress as angels (gasp!) for the Christmas/Holiday pageant. If this is an over-reaction or erroneous analysis I'd be more than willing to hear an alternate theory.
I have degrees in sociology, politics, and demographics and I believe I have a good feel for the pulse of the American people. Most are deeply offended at the assault on these simple aspects of their culture. These feelings were partially displayed in the 2004 elections. Just as they don't like unelected judges telling them how to think about gay marriage, they don't like others telling them that phrases like "Merry Christmas" are unacceptable, or that their kids have to attend school on Good Friday.
Well, I won't belabor this. Depsite the moments of acrimony I've enjoyed and benefitted from hearing you point of view. Bye.