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Iran says will retaliate if nuclear plants hit
Haaretz ^ | November 08, 2004 | Reuters

Posted on 11/08/2004 12:08:44 PM PST by yonif

TEHRAN - Iran threatened on Monday to strike back at Israel or any other country that attacked its nuclear facilities.

U.S. and Israeli officials accuse Iran of seeking to develop atomic bombs under cover of a civilian nuclear program. Iran denies the charges saying it only intends to produce electricity from nuclear power plants.

"If Israel or any other country attacks any site in Iran, we know no limits to threaten their interests," Deputy Revolutionary Guards Commander Mohammad-Baqer Zolqadr said.

"That means anywhere in the world, within their borders or outside it," he told reporters on Monday on the sidelines of an anti-U.S. conference in Tehran.

Israeli warplanes successfully destroyed the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq in 1981. Iran has stationed anti-aircraft batteries around its nuclear plants and built many of its facilities underground.

Iranian officials have also warned they can strike back at Israel with its medium-range Shahab-3 missile, which can also hit U.S. military bases in the Gulf.

Zolqadr denied Iran was developing nuclear weapons, saying the Islamic state preferred to rely on a volunteer militia force, which he said numbered 10 million, to defend the country.

Earlier the commander addressed high-school students at a conference entitled "The World Without America."

"The world without America is a world without oppression, without terror, without invasion, without massacre," he said in a speech that catalogued U.S. "crimes" ranging from the massacre of native Americans to the atom bomb on Hiroshima.

A video clip played for the audience showed gruesome pictures of injured children lying in hospital beds in Iraq, which U.S.-led forces invaded last year.

Zolqadr said an Iraq-style invasion of Iran was out of the question thanks to Iran's growing military might.

"We have assessed the American armed forces in the wars of Iraq and Afghanistan ... they are not unknown or mystical to us any more," he told reporters after his speech.

Iranian and EU officials said on Sunday a deal had been struck between Iran, Britain, Germany and France after two days of talks in Paris that could see Tehran avert UN Security Council sanctions over its disputed nuclear program.


TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: axisofevil; iran; napalminthemorning; nukes; religionofpeace; religionofpieces; terrorstate; wmd; wot
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To: HeadOn
Sorry, folks

don't let it happen again!

41 posted on 11/08/2004 4:11:18 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: Fedora
Retaliate with what? :)

They'll probably follow bin Laden's lead and make a video where they say mean things about us.

42 posted on 11/08/2004 4:12:27 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Leapfrog

Some people suffer from a real careless upbringing? Don't they know that you need to bring something besides a bad attitude and a big mouth to a serious gunfight?


43 posted on 11/08/2004 4:16:37 PM PST by Barnstormer
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To: yonif
Insane Mullah alert.

If Iraq democracy succeeds, and Iranian interference is put down, it will be only a matter of time before Iran's terrorist/fundamentalist government falls. I pray that Israel and the US has enough time for this to happen.

44 posted on 11/08/2004 4:17:53 PM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: yonif

Hey mad mullah here is my assessment. For 10 years or so Iran and Iraq went all out against each other producing about a million or so dead and eventually giving up and changing virtually nothing in terms of where the border is. In a matter of weeks the US led coalition of about 1 to 200k professional soldiers took Iraq which was considered to have the best armed forces among the middle east countries save Israel.


45 posted on 11/08/2004 4:38:37 PM PST by xp38
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To: yonif
This means they would send out scum to assassinate Israeli ambassadors and drive car bombs into Jewish centers in the West and Israeli embassies
46 posted on 11/08/2004 4:42:01 PM PST by dennisw (G_D - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: yonif
"We have assessed the American armed forces in the wars of Iraq and Afghanistan ... they are not unknown or mystical to us any more,"

You're about to get a lot more familiar with them, dumbass.

47 posted on 11/08/2004 6:06:13 PM PST by rageaholic
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To: Judith Anne

Even at an impersonal level, there was a painful reminder in reading 50Cal’s comments. I can only attribute the attitude to lack of education, though a mind like that would only look for supporting arguments, which are readily available from their bigoted counterparts in every race or creed they wish to oppose.
Yes Iran is filled with US supporters. Even most of the ones who supported the revolution were expecting a US type of human rights regime. Ultimately you and I will get our wish for Iran’s future. The likes of some others, will be stuck in the past for the rest of their lives and eventually find out they hated everyone.


48 posted on 11/08/2004 6:21:38 PM PST by Reza2004
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To: Reza2004

I became friends with Christian Iranian immigrants, and have great respect for the struggle within Iran. As well, I recall the disgrace of President Carter's shameful treatment of the Shah.

I believe Iran will be free immediately as soon as Iraq is settled.


49 posted on 11/08/2004 6:28:57 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: amigatec
USAF develops 30,000 bomb...

Oooops!! Meant to say 30,000 LBS bomb..

I built an even BIGGER one during WWII...a 44,000 GRAND SLAM!!

50 posted on 11/08/2004 6:35:13 PM PST by amigatec (There are no significant bugs in our software... Maybe you're not using it properly.- Bill Gates)
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To: amigatec

Hummm, breakfast in Bushehr! :>)


51 posted on 11/08/2004 6:48:36 PM PST by Reza2004
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To: SJackson

Iran says will retaliate if nuclear plants hit

Yes. I'd be afraid if I wasn't laughing so hard.


52 posted on 11/08/2004 9:13:34 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

As much as it would be a lovely idea to see an end to the Iranian nut-jobs dreams of having Nukes with an all out attack on their facilities by either the U.S or Israel. Its really not going to be that simple (When is it? :D )

You see, recently the Iranians have purchased a quite high number of Russian-made 3M-82 Moskit anti-ship cruise missiles (NATO designation: SS-N-22 Sunburn.

The Sunburn can deliver a 200-kiloton nuclear payload, or: a 750-pound conventional warhead, within a range of 100 miles, and it travels at Mach 2. Basically its designed to sink a carrier.
The US Navy's only defense against the Sunburn missile is to detect its approach well ahead of time. For this purpose US AWACs radar planes assigned to each naval battle group are kept aloft on a rotating schedule. The planes "see" everything within two hundred miles of the fleet.

Trouble is the US navy operating in the Gulf faces a serious challenge that is unique to the coastal, environment. A glance at a map shows why: The Gulf is nothing but a large lake, with one narrow outlet, and most of its northern shore, i.e., Iran, consists of mountainous terrain that affords a commanding tactical advantage over ships operating in Gulf waters, should they have mobile launchers in those mountains things could get tricky.

Mind you they'd be even trickier if the Nut-jobs got nukes and tipped the Sunburns with them, they could hold all shipping in the gulf to ransom in that event.

Difficult times ahead I believe.


53 posted on 11/09/2004 1:38:34 AM PST by AngloSaxon (successful)
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Here is a list of IAF world records:

-June 5, 1967 - the Six Day War: The destruction of the entire Egyptian air-force within 3 hours. By the end of the day the Syrian and Jordanian air forces were wiped out as well. The IAF shoot-down total at the end of the war was a claimed record of 451 enemy aircraft downed versus of its own 10 downed. See: Operation Red Sheet.

-Obtaining the first shoot-downs for the American fighter jets, the F-15 and the F-16.

-1981: The destruction of the Iraqi Osiraq nuclear reactor. 8 IAF F-16 fighters flew to Iraq and bombed the nuclear facilties of Osiraq. Among the pilots that took part in the attack was the late Ilan Ramon, Israel's first astronaut.

-1982: The destruction of the entire Syrian air-defence system in Lebanon without a single warplane lost. Also acheaving a total of 100 Syrian planes shoot-downs, without a single IAF warplane lost in dogfights.

-1985: The bombing of PLO Headquarters in Tunis, Tunisia, the longest mission ever undertaken by the IAF.

-The only documented emergency landing of an F-15 with only one wing.

-39 IAF pilot shot down at least 5 jet planes, 10 out of them shot down at least 8 jet planes.

-Major General Giora Epstein shot down 17 (seventeen) jet planes, holding the world record of jets shot down.

-687 enemy warplanes were shot down in dogfights by IAF warplanes since the independence day of Israel in 1948, while only 23 IAF warplanes were shot down in dogfights by enemy warplanes since 1948, meaning that the ratio kill of IAF on the arab air forces is 30:1.

Iran, do you really think that you can retaliate to one of the top air forces on earth? Think again :)


54 posted on 11/09/2004 5:45:01 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (Israeli Defence Forces)
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As seen in 1982, IAF doesnt really care of SAMs...
Sure not of dog fights :)


55 posted on 11/09/2004 5:46:27 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (Israeli Defence Forces)
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