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Democrats' Shot At 2008 Win Looks Like Dud (Outstanding Read)
The Tampa Tribune ^ | 11/7/04 | Daniel Ruth

Posted on 11/07/2004 7:04:43 AM PST by shortstop

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To: shortstop; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog; Mudboy Slim
To begin with, can we please, please, please dispense with this Ezra Pound-like delusion that New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Eva Peron of Chappaqua, has any remote prospects to get elected to the presidency of the United States?

Chris Matthews just mentioned, on The Chris Matthews Show, that Hillary will never beat the Republicans. Maybe they are learning. But will she be able to convince herself?

21 posted on 11/07/2004 7:27:53 AM PST by Libloather (SURPRISE! Effin' Kerry failed the American Election Test...)
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To: shortstop
Soft of like the requiem for the GOP in 1964.

"To begin with, can we please, please, please dispense with this Ezra Pound-like delusion that Former Vice President and Failed Presidentil Candidate, Richard Nixon, has any remote prospects to get elected to the presidency of the United States?"

22 posted on 11/07/2004 7:28:00 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: shortstop

Yo Dem's...Bring It!

Schwartzkopff - Jeb Bush 2008


23 posted on 11/07/2004 7:30:32 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: randog
"Look at it this way--how do you get a big, burly, beer-swillin' union iron worker to work in unison with a birkenstocked hippy calling for "gay rights"? That's why their strategy is 'vote for us because....we're not them'."

How do you get Grandma and Grandpa Democrat to vote for gay marriage? How do you get Blacks and Hispanics to vote for gay marriage? How do you get recent Democrat immigrants who are from India, Arab countries and China to vote for gay marriage? It's a lost cause for them.

24 posted on 11/07/2004 7:31:36 AM PST by Bob Mc
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To: shortstop
What's so outstanding about it?

There's no way that the Democrat's can continue to be a party-of-the-people until it wrests the wild-eyed from the steering wheel of the party. Period. If they throw them out immediately, their recovery can happen overnight!

The radicals really belong in a party of their own. The gay-marriage kooks, enviro-whacko's, peace-queers, activist-atheists, Hollywood -socialists and UN-lover's live in a BizzaroWorld of odd-ball priorities that defy common sense.

Had the Democrat Party nominated Joe Lieberman, he might well be the president-elect at this moment... think about it!

25 posted on 11/07/2004 7:36:06 AM PST by johnny7 (“We blowed 'em up real good!” -John Candy & Joe Flaherty, SCTV)
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To: Bob Mc
It's a lost cause for them.

I've been trolling the leftist websites over the weekend to watch the train wrecks up close, and you'd be surprised (or maybe not) and the animosity towards the homos. Love and tolerance as long as you bring something to the table; a pox on you if you take from it. Kinda bass-ackwards for lefties.

26 posted on 11/07/2004 7:36:29 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: hflynn
"Pretty bold statement about a party that just nominated John Kerry. The fact is Hillary will be the Democrats nominee in 2008."

Correct. Which is why I'd bet (a small amount) that she voted for Bush against both Gore and Kerry.

--Boris

27 posted on 11/07/2004 7:41:22 AM PST by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a Leftist with a word processor)
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To: shortstop

uh huh.


28 posted on 11/07/2004 7:42:39 AM PST by altura (The glass slipper didn't fit the ugly stepsisters and they don't get to live in the castle.)
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To: vishnu6
Typhoid Mary

Shhh...don't let them know that the rubes, rednecks and pajamaheeden are on to them.

29 posted on 11/07/2004 7:43:10 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: shortstop

bump later read


30 posted on 11/07/2004 7:44:57 AM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: shortstop

"Or put more simply: Charles Manson will win parole before the Typhoon Mary of managed care ever haunts the West Wing."

What a great laugh, but what a great truth. Hillary would be a greater recruiting tool, free of charge, than her husband EVER was. The democrats are simply stupid. But not that stupid.


31 posted on 11/07/2004 7:46:47 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: shortstop
please, please, please dispense with this Ezra Pound-like delusion that New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Eva Peron of Chappaqua, has any remote prospects to get elected to the presidency of the United States?

Now, now, now, Daniel Ruth apparently doesn't understand Hillary as well as we do. Hillzbella has only one thing in mind and that is to become president of the United States. Again.

She has been setting everything up in the senate to run for the presidency. She has been squashing the ambitions of other democratic senators less they should happen to have a similar ambition to hers. She has done things for other senators which put them in the position of owing Hillary their undying allegiance.

Hunzilla will make sure she runs and will make sure she is the only one who appears to be viable enough to run. Now, now, now, it will be another thing to win.

32 posted on 11/07/2004 7:49:54 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: Mr. Jeeves
They haven't got the 60's anti-war backgrounds that seem to be mandatory.

Nor the snobby, New England elitism that really makes the Dems swoon.

33 posted on 11/07/2004 8:02:17 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: shortstop

Cartman Voice: Sweeeet!


34 posted on 11/07/2004 8:05:11 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Hey liberals!! Peel your stupid bumperstickers! He lost! BwaaaaaHaaaHaaa!!)
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To: GaltMeister

Please make a note of that as it seems that we'll need it in 08!!!

"Eva Peron of Chappaqua"


35 posted on 11/07/2004 8:05:13 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Slyfox
She has been setting everything up in the senate to run for the presidency.

Which is why Rudy has to take her Senate seat in 2006. Imagine her not even keeping her "own state".

36 posted on 11/07/2004 8:11:51 AM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: shortstop
Sorry, but this article is BS.

We're gonna have a wicked hard time winning in 2008 unless we're facing Hillary. And even then it'd be damn hard against Clinton-Richardson driving massive black and Hispanic turnout. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT EASY PICKINS.

MOST importantly, we need a strong candidate, which is no guarantee. What if we get Rudy, and lose the pro-life vote and turnout? We'd be screwed. What if we nominate a Bob Dole type, or a twerp like Hagel? Possibly screwed.

37 posted on 11/07/2004 8:12:20 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: gobucks
The democrats are simply stupid. But not that stupid.

I dunno. You'd have thought by now that they would KNOW better than to run liberal Democrats from Taxachussetts. We'll see if they can "re-invent" themselves in time.

38 posted on 11/07/2004 8:13:29 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: JohnnyZ
Rudy is way too liberal. Pro-abort, pro-homo. He'd never get the Religious right vote. He's good as a NY Republican, but he'd never win the national election. That's why he should take Hillary's Senate seat instead. Kick her out of the political realm in 2006.
39 posted on 11/07/2004 8:16:48 AM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: BradyLS
see if they can "re-invent" themselves in time.

We've got to take out Obama while he's small. We ignored Bin Ladin, and look what happened!
Obama is trying to be a Democrat "Christian" and morally moderate right now. They're grooming him.

40 posted on 11/07/2004 8:20:04 AM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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