Democrats' Shot At 2008 Win Looks Like Dud (Outstanding Read)

The Tampa Tribune ^ | 11/7/04 | Daniel Ruth

[shortstop]

This is written by the most liberal of the Tribune's columnists. I especially like: "To begin with, can we please, please, please dispense with this Ezra Pound-like delusion that New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Eva Peron of Chappaqua, has any remote prospects to get elected to the presidency of the United States?"

[GaltMeister]

I liked that "Eva Peron of Chappaqua" line too, LOL

If this is a Lib, he sure gets it a lot more than the others!

[RippleFire]

This is written by the most liberal of the Tribune's columnists

You have to be kidding!

[GaryL]

Great articel! Thanks for posting it. What a wonderful way to start out Sunday morning!

[Mr. Jeeves]

Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh is young (49) and certainly would help the party reclaim Midwestern voters, as would Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsak.

They would be more competitive in the Midwest. but I seriously doubt either of them could win a Democratic primary. They haven't got the 60's anti-war backgrounds that seem to be mandatory.

[hflynn]

To begin with, can we please, please, please dispense with this Ezra Pound-like delusion that New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Eva Peron of Chappaqua, has any remote prospects to get elected to the presidency of the United States?

Pretty bold statement about a party that just nominated John Kerry. The fact is Hillary will be the Democrats nominee in 2008. We don't know who the Republican nominee will be, which tells me talk of Hillary's remote prospects is more than premature, it's downright stupidity.

[Iowa Granny]

This is written by the most liberal of the Tribune's columnists.

Unbelievable. Thanks for posting it.

[concerned about politics]

The Democrats don't even have to bother looking for a candidate. The Old Media will pick Hillary for them.

[Max Combined]

"the Typhoon Mary of managed care"

That would be the "Typhoid" Mary of managed care.

[SaintDismas]

I agree with you about Bayh, Vilsack and Easley. They would truly be the best bet for the Dems. They simply won't be nominated. This party has to sink deeper before they get a clue. Hopefully anyway..

[jern]

The same logic holds true with North Carolina Gov. Mike Easley, 54, in trying to recapture a Southern constituency.

[Josh in PA]

Democrats have two options right now and neither of them are pretty.

#1) Keep pushing people like Kerry, Dean, H.Clinton to the forefront of the party, and settle with 40-45% of the nationwide support, and a constant neverending 55-45/60-40 defict in the Senate and 30-40 seats short in the house.

#2) Admit there's a problem, change gears, push guys like Bayh or Easley to the front. Watch the 15-20% lunatic fringe throw there hands up in disgust and form there own party, fracturing the party.


Either one isn't much of a plan but they don't have alot of options. Socialism has been reject by the American people time and time again.

There best hope would be option 3,.. Trying to create a conservative/economical divide in the Republican Party. The only thing Republicans need to do is to STAY TO THE RIGHT!!!!!!

Say for example, GOP suffers a setback in 2006 and gives back a couple seats in the Senate and House.. DO NOT COME TO THE CENTER, that will be prime pickens for the DNC to manufacture a candidate to torpedo the party. If the GOP stays to the right with positions of free enterprise/capitalism and social conservative values, we will never be defeated.

The free enterprise/capitalists, libertarians like Neal Boortz, are smart enough to know that the best vehicle for success is the Republican Party. They are not going to throw away their wealth and financial security for marijuana, unless the GOP gets weak in the knees and starts jacking up taxes and increases spending even more.


That being said.. Bush.. CUT SPENDING HARD, CUT TAXES HARD, END GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS. The American people are with you!!

[dawn53]

Whoa! Coming from Ruth, this is a huge admission of failure.

He has a talk radio show on Saturday mornings that is sooo liberal, I can't stand to listen to him.

He's an self-proclaimed liberal and he sees the writing on the wall (of course, he's in Florida, where the news was overwhelmingly bad for Dems, they lost the Presidency, a Dem US Senate seat, and the FL House and Senate went heavily Republican.)

In Florida, biggest blow to the Dems has to be the large percentage of Hispanics that voted for the Republican party. The Hispanic population is growing much faster than the black population, and will be an even larger voting block in the future.)

[randog]

The dem party may be too broken to unite their constituents. They've handed too much power over to the far left, who ain't letting go. The homos have proven to be a monkey on their back (just like the gun-grabbers proved to be in '00).

Look at it this way--how do you get a big, burly, beer-swillin' union iron worker to work in unison with a birkenstocked hippy calling for "gay rights"? That's why their strategy is 'vote for us because....we're not them'.

[Paladin2]

He must be attending the "Mark Steyn Correspondence School of Accurate 'RAT Bashing", LOL>

[Uncle Vlad]

"International Brotherhood of Henchmen!" I love it!

[concerned about politics]

The same logic holds true with North Carolina Gov. Mike Easley, 54, in trying to recapture a Southern constituency.

Edwards was young and from the south. He couldn't even get his own home town.

I don't believe the Democrats have a problem with their candidates as much as they have a problem with their message of Socialism. People don't want it.

[Semper Paratus]

The article reads like a trubute to Rodney Dangerfield.

[babaloo]

Vilsack was the vice-presidential wanna be that the Iowa Poll showed would cause Kerry to do worse in Iowa that any of the others. He is not going anywhere. He could not even keep Iowa as a Blue State!